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    What saddens me deeply is, the fact that there has not been a documented attack by a healthy wolf on a human being in the wild.......till this. Since 1983..I have been working with wolves and wolfdogs. My interaction with wolves in captivity included actually going in the enclosure with them after months of making friends and earning trust by them. It always stayed in my mind that these animals could never be released now that they do not fear humans....... this is a sad occurrance and a kickback to the gray wolf, the one mammal who's social structure is closer to humans than any other....... I hope to use this story as an educational tool when I am dealing with wolfdog breeders and their quest to raise the content of their animals by introducing more wolf in them........


    Four Wolves Suspected in Man’s Death in Remote Area of Canada
    By Jess Edberg, Information Specialist -- International Wolf Center, 12/12/2005


    An apparent wolf attack has been determined as the cause of death for 22-year-old Kenton Joel Carnegie, whose body was found on Tuesday, November 8, at Points North Landing near Wollaston Lake in the Canadian province of Saskatchewan, about 450 kilometers northeast of La Ronge.

    The main theory in this case is that Carnegie was attacked by a pack of four wolves seen in the area for some time that were showing signs of losing their natural fear of humans (an indication of habituation to humans), according to Saskatchewan Environment and Resource Management (SERM) wolf biologist Tim Trottier, who is investigating the case. There is also evidence that Carnegie and others had recently been interacting with the wolves at close range.

    Canadian wolf biologist Dr. Paul Paquet has also been investigating the incident and says that evidence points to approximately four wolves, based on blood and tracks present in the area. Investigating conservation officers, given permission to kill any wolves suspected in the incident, have killed two wolves from the area. Dr. Paquet’s examination of the animals showed cloth, hair and flesh in the large intestine that resembled human remains and are being tested for human origin.

    Paquet said that the wolves suspected of attacking Carnegie probably had prior human contact and that the attack was likely spurred by the animals’ interest in discarded food or garbage.

    “I suspect that ultimately we will find that these are garbage-habituated wolves that are either being inadvertently fed or intentionally fed in the area,” he said. “That is the common thread to most wolf attacks that I’ve investigated.”

    If wolves are proven to have killed Carnegie, it will be the first documented case of healthy, wild wolves killing a human in North America.

    Does this mean that all wolves should be considered a serious threat to humans living in or visiting wolf country? Not necessarily. Wolves and other wild animals have always been unpredictable. Bears, mountain lions, bison, moose and even domestic pets have been known to present a serious threat to people under certain circumstances. The danger may lie more in how we as humans behave in the presence of a wild animal and not the other way around. Tens of millions of human visitor days have been logged in wolf country without wolf attacks.

    Like other wild and domestic animals, wolves are responsive to the actions of humans. Humans have a remarkable ability to influence and shape animal behavior, whether that involves a black bear harassing campers for food after being fed by an eager photographer, a raccoon rummaging through your trash can when the lid is not secured, or a chickadee feeding contently at a backyard feeder while you watch through your kitchen window.

    Our actions have the potential to cause immediate and sometimes dangerous behavioral changes in wildlife. Wolves are probably no different from a chickadee in how susceptible they are to habituation. By avoiding contact with wildlife or providing negative stimulus in the presence of a bold animal (yelling, banging pots and pans, throwing sticks), also known as aversive conditioning, we may be able to avoid habituating animals to us.

    Could this regrettable event have been prevented with appropriate waste disposal and aversive conditioning by those encountering wolves? We cannot know; we can simply be aware of the potential danger of habituating wild animals to us and take action against it in the future.
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    Wow, I was hoping that article I sent ya would be proven false Just means that we got to be more vigilant and not make the same mistakes that caused this - feeding wild animals or allowing them access to garbage . Aweful day for the wolf as this case will be pointed to as proof that they stalk and kill humans. Wolves are going to lose more than humans will in this case... wait 2 or 3 hundred years and see if there are any left
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      I tend to stay far away from these threads to prevent a fight, but I thought I would point out a couple of things. Living in the Rocky Mountains, I have been around a lot of wildlife. One thing to remember is that you will always find wildlife in populated areas in mountain regions. I rarely went outside at night growing up because we had mountain lion, deer, raccoon, porcupine, and fox on my parents property especially after our dog was put to sleep. Many people have had the Department of Wildlife remove bears and mountain lion from their property sometimes through capture and sometimes lethal. My dad kept a beware of bear sign by the loading dock of one of his businesses because they came off the mountain and were frequently spotted. In other words, whether somebody feeds wolves or doesn't feed wolves, they will come into contact with humans especially if they are hungry. During my teens and 20s, I spent a lot of time camping and hiking deep in the Rocky Mountains with mountain lion and bears all around me. I always kept a .357 with me just in case a bear was hungry and came into my campsite looking for food. I never worried about mountain lion too much because they are very solitary creatures. They watched me, I stumbled on a lot of fresh tracks, but no big deal. However, they will kill a small child thinking the child is small prey so I get a little agitated when city slickers bring their children up to the mountains and loose track of them. A child was lost not too long ago in Rocky Mountain National Park.

      It seams to me that a lot of people like to forget that wolves are predators. They are pack hunters, and they are pretty fearless. If something moves and they are hungry, they will plan, attack, kill, and eat it. The scary part is the coordinated attack. They are instinctively smart and they can bring down pretty much anything as a pack including an armed backpacker. This is the big difference between a predator like a mountain lion and a wolf pack. I know this is not a popular statement on this board, but wolf packs are dangerous especially to backpackers, ranchers, and cattle. My sister and brother-in-law, ranchers, have a hard enough time dealing with racoons and coyotes. If they are saddled with a no shoot policy when the wolves are brought here, that will be a mess. It is especially ridiculous when predators roam our National Park lands, and our fine Federal government, in all its wisdom, doesn't allow backpackers to bring a firearm to defend themselves.

      Anyhow, this incident shouldn't come as a surprise, and without the proper precautions, it will most certainly happen again. I get a little annoyed when the danger isn't accurately portrayed. I know that some people love these animals, and that is fine. However, I put humans before animals. This man was definitely somebody's son, maybe a husband, and maybe a father...I find it kinda sad that we are putting the reputation of the wolf before this man and his family or even the safety of others...God forbid, somebody's child.
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        I can fully understand your point of view, however, I don't believe Ken was implying wolves come before humans. My understanding of his write-up is this...

        If backpackers, campers, hikers, and the like are better educated on the wolf and it's tendancies, there shouldn't be an instance where a firearm would be necessary. The problem with these deaths is always what name it gives the animal that acted upon it's own natural instinct. We have to share the earth with these creatures, and we should respect their environment.

        While being mauled by a pack of wolves doesn't sound fun, it might have been preventable with a few extra precautions.
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