Dick Cheney shoots a man!!

[2Fbodcru]

Just heard on Fox News channel that Dick Cheney accidently shot a man while quail hunting today!! This is for real!!

[2Fbodcru]

CNN has it posted now:

Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter

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CNN has it posted now:

Cheney accidently shoots fellow hunter

That article really pisses me off . I have nothing against Dick Cheney but that is rediculous to play it off like it isn't a big deal. A hunting accident is a hunting accident if it happened to someone else they'd be loosing there hunting priveledges for quite some time. It really bugs me where the spokesman says it hit his face and neck and broke the skin but wasn't really that bad and how the medical staff was probably even over reacting. He then goes on to say he has been peppered pretty hard before its just something that happens once in awhile that is a complete load of sh!@. You do take an inherant risk when you go hunting but its not something that should happen every now and then and shouldn't be taken lightly. I think the Vice President needs to man up to what he did and not have a spokesman talking for him he needs to come out admit he did something horribly wrong. This gives sportsmen a horrible image.

[2Fbodcru]

That article really pisses me off . I have nothing against Dick Cheney but that is rediculous to play it off like it isn't a big deal. A hunting accident is a hunting accident if it happened to someone else they'd be loosing there hunting priveledges for quite some time. It really bugs me where the spokesman says it hit his face and neck and broke the skin but wasn't really that bad and how the medical staff was probably even over reacting. He then goes on to say he has been peppered pretty hard before its just something that happens once in awhile that is a complete load of sh!@. You do take an inherant risk when you go hunting but its not something that should happen every now and then and shouldn't be taken lightly. I think the Vice President needs to man up to what he did and not have a spokesman talking for him he needs to come out admit he did something horribly wrong. This gives sportsmen a horrible image.

Well, we will just have to see how it plays out, but obviously they will try to minimal-ize it -
It freaks me out though, to think that the Vice President actually shot someone

[fastTa]

That article really pisses me off . I have nothing against Dick Cheney but that is rediculous to play it off like it isn't a big deal. A hunting accident is a hunting accident if it happened to someone else they'd be loosing there hunting priveledges for quite some time. It really bugs me where the spokesman says it hit his face and neck and broke the skin but wasn't really that bad and how the medical staff was probably even over reacting. He then goes on to say he has been peppered pretty hard before its just something that happens once in awhile that is a complete load of sh!@. You do take an inherant risk when you go hunting but its not something that should happen every now and then and shouldn't be taken lightly. I think the Vice President needs to man up to what he did and not have a spokesman talking for him he needs to come out admit he did something horribly wrong. This gives sportsmen a horrible image.

Talk about over-reacting. I've been bird hunting all my life and sh!t happens.....that's all there is to it. No matter how careful you are, what goes up must come down. Bird shot loses it's velocity very quickly.

I've been peppered.....most bird hunters I know have been peppered periodically especially while hunting in numbers with low tree lines. You laugh it off, and carry on. It also looks like Whittington failed to signal Cheney that he had walked up on the side of him.

Dude got peppered.....so what's the moral of the story........don't be a Dick??

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Talk about over-reacting. I've been bird hunting all my life and sh!t happens.....that's all there is to it. No matter how careful you are, what goes up must come down. Bird shot loses it's velocity very quickly.

I've been peppered.....most bird hunters I know have been peppered periodically especially while hunting in numbers with low tree lines. You laugh it off, and carry on. It also looks like Whittington failed to signal Cheney that he had walked up on the side of him.

Dude got peppered.....so what's the moral of the story........don't be a Dick??

Over reacting to someone getting shot then it getting played down? I wouldn't even call what happened getting peppered. It hit him in the face and neck and was hard enough to break the skin and put the guy in the hospital, and I also don't see how you can just laugh off getting peppered. I've hunted birds on many occasions even in big groups and never seen a single person ever come close to getting hit its all about staying safe. Once you pull the trigger you can never bring the shot back you have to be 100% sure of the shot or just not take it. I have a few friends who do really dumb stuff when they hunt and I will not go out with them its just not worth it. A gun is a gun and whether its a long range rifle or bird shot that only travels a few hundred yards max it doesn't matter unless its a 100% safe shot you shouldn't take it.

[Dave M]

Any time you're handling a weapon, hunting or not, you know exactly what is in your line of fire and what is behind your target or you don't take the shot. Period. It is nothing to "laugh off" and is extremely poor weapons handling if it happens even occasionally. Granted, the guy who got shot was probably equally to blame, but they were both negligent. He's just lucky they weren't using rifles.

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Over reacting to someone getting shot then it getting played down? I wouldn't even call what happened getting peppered. It hit him in the face and neck and was hard enough to break the skin and put the guy in the hospital, and I also don't see how you can just laugh off getting peppered. I've hunted birds on many occasions even in big groups and never seen a single person ever come close to getting hit its all about staying safe. Once you pull the trigger you can never bring the shot back you have to be 100% sure of the shot or just not take it. I have a few friends who do really dumb stuff when they hunt and I will not go out with them its just not worth it. A gun is a gun and whether its a long range rifle or bird shot that only travels a few hundred yards max it doesn't matter unless its a 100% safe shot you shouldn't take it.

Apparently you didn't read the article.

Armstrong said she was watching from a car while Cheney, Whittington and another hunter got out of the vehicle to shoot at a covey of quail.

Whittington shot a bird and went to look for it in the tall grass, while Cheney and the third hunter walked to another spot and discovered a second covey.

Whittington "came up from behind the vice president and the other hunter and didn't signal them or indicate to them or announce himself," Armstrong said.

"The vice president didn't see him," she continued. "The covey flushed and the vice president picked out a bird and was following it and shot. And by God, Harry was in the line of fire and got peppered pretty good."

Attorney Harry Whittington made a critical mistake while bird hunting. Walking up on someone's flank without announcing yourself. Did Whittington deserve to be peppered? No, but it was no one elses fault but his own. And he was obviously a pretty good distance away, because you don't get peppered from less than a 100 yards away and just have the bird shot "break the skin".

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"It broke the skin," she said of the shotgun pellets. "It knocked him silly. But he was fine. He was talking. His eyes were open. It didn't get in his eyes or anything like that."

If it hit him hard enough to "Knock him silly" it couldn't have been that far away plus at 100+ yards bird shot hardly carries the KE to do much more than sting you. I understand that hunting accidents happen and if it had happened to anyone else and I read the article I probably wouldn't think twice but when it comes down to it the person who pulls the trigger is the one whos fault it is no questions asked. The guy should have announced himself but it still doesn't matter, he's was in the line of fire and the trigger shouldn't have been pulled. If Cheney didn't know where he was then he should have never taken the shot. The responsibility lies with the shooter and no one else.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

Look at if from the point of view of a quarter back. If they should never pull the trigger, there would never be any interceptions.

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If it hit him hard enough to "Knock him silly" it couldn't have been that far away plus at 100+ yards bird shot hardly carries the KE to do much more than sting you. I understand that hunting accidents happen and if it had happened to anyone else and I read the article I probably wouldn't think twice but when it comes down to it the person who pulls the trigger is the one whos fault it is no questions asked. The guy should have announced himself but it still doesn't matter, he's was in the line of fire and the trigger shouldn't have been pulled. If Cheney didn't know where he was then he should have never taken the shot. The responsibility lies with the shooter and no one else.

Let me explain this to you so that you can understand this.

Any seasoned bird hunter knows there is a very serious cardinal rule. Once the shooter picks a bird to shoot, and begins to lead the bird with his shotgun, they normally have one eye closed and are concentrating on leading and shooting the bird. A person in the process of shooting a bird, cannot be expected to attempt to foucus on leading and shooting the bird, and simultaneously making a feeble attempt to look around for anyone that might have foolishly walked into his shooting path.

Because of this, it is an unwritten understanding amongst bird hunters that the primary safety lies upon everyone else aside from the shooter to always know their position and to always announce yourself verbally and clearly so that they do not get shot or peppered. This does not mean the shooter can just laxidasically pull his trigger at random just because every one else should be paying attention to him once he begins to lead the bird.

BTW, the articles all say "it just broke the skin." Just breaking your skin does NOT knock you silly. Well, unless you weigh 10 lbs.

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Look at if from the point of view of a quarter back. If they should never pull the trigger, there would never be any interceptions.

If a quarterback throws an interception he walks off the field and waits for the defense to get him the ball back. That really has nothing to do with hunting or gun handling in general. An interception can't kill anyone but a bullet can.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

If a quarterback throws an interception he walks off the field and waits for the defense to get him the ball back. That really has nothing to do with hunting or gun handling in general. An interception can't kill anyone but a bullet can.

You missed the point.

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Let me explain this to you so that you can understand this.

Any seasoned bird hunter knows there is a very serious cardinal rule. Once the shooter picks a bird to shoot, and begins to lead the bird with his shotgun, they normally have one eye closed and are concentrating on leading and shooting the bird. A person in the process of shooting a bird, cannot be expected to attempt to foucus on leading and shooting the bird, and simultaneously making a feeble attempt to look around for anyone that might have foolishly walked into his shooting path.

Because of this, it is an unwritten understanding amongst bird hunters that the primary safety lies upon everyone else aside from the shooter to always know their position and to always announce yourself verbally and clearly so that they do not get shot or peppered. This does not mean the shooter can just laxidasically pull his trigger at random just because every one else should be paying attention to him once he begins to lead the bird.

BTW, the articles all say "it just broke the skin." Just breaking your skin does NOT knock you silly. Well, unless you weigh 10 lbs.

The article also says

"It broke the skin," she said of the shotgun pellets. "It knocked him silly.

. Maybe you didn't read it close enough . I understand all about bird hunting I've been doing it long enough. I've hunted everything from pheasants to ducks from a boat which is what I'd consider the most dangerous but at all times if you live by the rule don't pull the trigger unless its a safe shot you don't have anything to worry about. You don't walk around with your shotgun on your shoulder and ready to fire you walk with it down and begin swinging your body with the bird before the gun even gets to your shoulder in that time you have the bird in your site and are able to see anything that is infront of it that will pose a danger and cause you not to shoot. Plus you should know what your surrounds are such as buildings or roads, plus keep a watch where all the members of your group are. A shot happens very quickly but you have the time to make sure its a safe shot. Every seasoned bird hunter knows to make sure they have a safe shot and to rely on what they see before they pull the trigger not the other guy and I haven't met too many "seasoned" bird hunters who shoot with one eye closed unless they have a dominant eye thats oposite of how they shoot.

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The article also says . Maybe you didn't read it close enough .

Maybe you aren't too sharp. You don't just barely break the skin and get knocked silly. How old are you? Obviously the author of these articles is significantly overstating the obvious. The only reason he went to a hospital at all is because there was already an ambulance on call given the clout of the people on this hunt.

Every seasoned bird hunter knows to make sure they have a safe shot and to rely on what they see before they pull the trigger not the other guy and I haven't met too many "seasoned" bird hunters who shoot with one eye closed unless they have a dominant eye thats oposite of how they shoot.

I already told you how it works, pay attention. Remember.... the cardinal rule.

If you are not closing one eye when you shoot a rifle or shotgun, then you are an oddball and likely a rookie. The reason you close one eye is to eliminate your depth perception so that you can focus on the lead distance and or drop distance.