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    got this email this morning, wanted to share. Many here know Scott, he's one heck of a human being...a great guy... anyway..lets just read and think about it some, if you will...

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    Good afternoon Camaro Comrades and Firebird Friends.........

    Let me make something very clear from the start.......the article you'll
    find below reflects my own personal feelings about buying American versus
    Foreign. It is not necessarily that of the company I work for and I want
    to make that abundantly clear from the start.

    I guess I'm 'old fashioned' in that I believe in America -- I believe it's
    the best country in the world in which to live. (I also believe Canada as
    being another great country........) I believe in celebrating on the 4th
    of July. I believe my life-- and the lives of my family and friends -- are
    better than most of the world's population. Are we a perfect country?
    No...we aren't ...and I don't believe there is a perfect 'anything' --
    let alone a country.

    The problem as I see it is our way of life and standard of living is being
    threatened on several fronts.......one of them being that we tend to be our
    own worst enemy. We constantly air our dirty laundry in front of the
    world. And we are putting our own people out of jobs. We aren't
    supporting our fellow Americans.

    Do I have the solution? No. I don't. The older I get, the more I realize
    how much I really DON'T know. (I wish people like Barbra Streisand would
    also come to the same conclusion!)

    Anyway.....I digress while wrapping myself in the flag.

    Sorry......that's just who I am.

    I hope this prelude has not offended anyone. But I also hope that you'll
    read the following article and realize that it DOES in fact affect you --
    regardless of what kind of car or truck you drive........'cause you MAY be
    paying a lot more in the long run if GM or Ford go under.


    ----- Forwarded by SCOTT SETTLEMIRE/US/GM/GMC on 04/12/2006 05:05 PM -----

    "Andy Wolf"
    <a1wolf@budwolfch To: "Teeter Howard" <hteeter@cox.net>
    evy.com> cc:
    Subject: FW: Is It Unpatriotic to Not Buy American Cars.doc
    04/12/2006 03:32
    PM






    Thought some of you might like to see this article. Andy

    -----Original

    Is It Unpatriotic to Not Buy American Cars?
    By Roger Simmermaker
    Special to FCN Online

    As I sat in an Orlando studio on Jan. 24 to be interviewed on Fox
    News' "Hannity and Colmes" for the first time, that seemed to be the
    question I was going to be asked to answer if the introductory comments
    were any indication. In the studio in New York was Malcolm Bricklin,
    founder and CEO of Visionary Vehicles, who plans on importing cars from
    China by 2007. Ford had just announced plans to lay off 30,000 workers, and
    since even Mr. Bricklin (to his credit) says he doesn't want to see so many
    Americans join the ranks of the unemployed, it was a good question to ask.
    But the show started with asking Mr. Bricklin a different question and by
    the time the cameras pointed to me, I was given a different question as
    well, so I never really got to answer it.
    But as I continue to think about it since that interview, the answer I
    would have given to Sean Hannity is the same as my answer today: If it's
    unpatriotic to destroy the American middle class, then it's unpatriotic to
    not buy American cars. As a country, we're drowning in a sea of red ink,
    and as consumers (those who really should know better, anyway) we're
    drowning is a sea of "what's in it for me."
    Since President Bush has all but ruled out any government help for either
    Ford or GM saying they have to make a product that is "relevant" (did you
    know Mr. Bush himself owns a Ford pickup truck?) it's up to the American
    consumer to realize that a bankruptcy for Ford or GM or both is definitely
    not in the national interest. Not only would hundreds of thousands of
    workers lose their jobs, but about 450,000 retirees would be de-funded.
    These retirees on fixed incomes would see smaller pensions and reduced
    medical benefits. The workers that remained would see massive cuts in
    benefits as well.
    Big deal, you say? At least American companies still offer their workers
    pensions. According to a recent article in The Tennessean, Nissan North
    America new hires won't be able to count on a company pension when they
    retire. And if you work for Nissan and didn't happen to reach the age of 65
    by the end of last year, you won't be participating in the
    company-sponsored medical plan either.
    If American companies can't remain successful and shoulder the burden of
    health care for their workers, the rest of us will likely pick up the tab
    in the form of higher taxes through expanded entitlement programs, which
    are already growing at a rate of 8 percent a year.
    84% of all federal spending of our tax dollars already goes towards the
    "big three" untouchables: interest on the national debt, national defense
    (including homeland security) and entitlements such as Medicare, Medicaid
    and Social Security. So much for conservatives who wish for smaller
    government. Generally speaking, few of us want to invite more government
    intrusion into our lives. But a significantly smaller government these days
    would result in benefit cuts that would ultimately affect all of us. The
    days of those who want tax cuts because it means more money in their
    pockets and means benefit cuts only for someone else are over.
    So what's your reason for not buying American cars and trucks? I've heard
    (and disproved) them all but I'll list a few of the more popular ones here.
    1. Quality. According to the latest J.D. Power & Associates Long-term
    Dependability Survey, Lincoln, Buick and Cadillac all made the top five for
    2005. Lexus was number one and number two was mysteriously not reported by
    the CNN story highlighting the survey. What's even better (if you are a fan
    of American automakers) is that the average dependability of all GM and
    Ford models combined was greater than the average dependability for all the
    Japanese models combined.

    The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

    2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

    Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
    Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
    sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

  • #2
    2. Too much emphasis on "gas guzzlers." The hypocrisy in this statement is
    rampant since most people who make it are ardent supporters of the "free
    market." The trouble for these hypocrites is that a major free market
    principle is the law of supply and demand. According to Seattle Times
    columnist Shaunti Feldhahn, consumer demand for big, bad SUVs has doubled
    in the last 15 years. So much for the argument that American car companies
    aren't building what consumers want to buy. Just like American companies
    have been scrambling to satisfy the one percent of car buyers who want
    hybrids, Japanese car makers have been scrambling to catch up to Ford and
    GM by offering bigger and badder behemoths (at even worse gas mileage
    ratings than American SUVs). GM has more models with over 30 mpg. highway
    (2006 EPA estimates) than any other auto maker. Last month I revealed that
    my 1996 Lincoln Town Car now has over 160,000 miles with no signs of
    letting up. What I didn't mention is that my car has averaged 24 mpg since
    September 2001, which is a result of combined mostly highway driving during
    the week and mostly city driving on weekends. Not bad for a big luxury car.
    3. Foreign car companies will pick up the slack. This argument implies that
    the hiring of American workers by foreign companies would never take place
    if there weren't layoffs by American companies first. Even if you view
    foreign investment as a good thing -- which it isn't -- foreign companies
    will still invest in America even if we support American companies so they
    can actually retain our own workers. This argument is almost as bad as the
    one that implies we need to destroy American manufacturing jobs in general
    so we can move American workers into high-tech jobs. Why not let the
    college graduates strapped with tens of thousands of dollars in student
    loans and other debts take these jobs, and protect American workers in the
    jobs they choose to have now?
    4. American companies can do better. Better at what? What will it take for
    more American people to root for the home team again? Do you only root for
    your hometown sports team when they are winning, or do you root for them
    even when they are down -- no matter what? Let's see. American companies GM
    and Ford have won numerous quality awards, they have more domestic plants,
    employ more American workers, support more retirees along with their
    dependants and families, pay better wages than the non-union foreign-owned
    plants, have a higher percentage of domestic parts in their automobiles,
    pay more taxes to the U.S. Treasury, give more to charities for the benefit
    of this country, and donate more in the wake of disasters like 9-11. Need I
    go on?
    5. GM and Ford need to make cars Americans want to buy. I saved this one
    for last since it the most ridiculous statement of all. General Motors has
    the highest market share of any automobile company. To say the company that
    currently sells more cars and trucks to more people than any other company
    in the industry -- even if that market share is falling -- is truly
    ridiculous. Yes, I know Toyota is gaining on GM and may overtake them this
    year (in worldwide market share -- not U.S. market share -- where GM has
    roughly twice the market share of Toyota) and GM used to command around 50
    percent of the domestic market. But let's be reasonable, shall we? What
    company in any industry in today's super-competitive economy can command 50
    percent of their market? Not even Coke or Pepsi can do that. Which reminds
    me -- Pepsi recently passed Coke to take the top spot in the beverage wars.
    Is Coke number two now because they aren't making beverages Americans want
    to drink? I haven't heard that one yet. Only in America and only in the
    automobile industry could number two be declared a loser brand. And only if
    it's GM, not Toyota.
    The struggle for GM and Ford to regain much needed and much deserved
    traction has increasingly become a media war. And it's not just a media war
    as I reported in my September 2005 article titled Media Bias Against
    American Automakers. The bias towards foreign automakers has extended from
    journalists and other newsmakers to everyday Americans with vendettas
    against their home-team companies in the form of letters to the editor and
    blogs on the Internet. The Wall Street Journal recently ran a story titled
    "Are Rumours Hurting Sales" reporting on a Los Angeles resident who started
    a Web log called "GM Can Do Better." It's not that this individual has not
    heard the reports of numerous quality awards bestowed upon American
    automakers. It's that he's skeptical the reports are true.
    So there you have it. Foreign car lovers will believe it if Toyota wins an
    award. But if General Motors' Chevy Impala is documented to have fewer
    customer complaints than the Toyota Camry, foreign car lovers will grasp at
    different false reasons to justify their foreign purchases. But the facts
    are in and their arguments no longer hold water. I'd almost be willing to
    bet these American car bashers haven't test-driven an American car in
    years. Right now it doesn't matter that GM has 82 major plants in America
    and Ford has 35. What matters is that Toyota, Honda and Nissan have eight
    plants each. It doesn't matter that Toyota and Honda average 65 to 75
    percent domestic parts in their U.S. built cars while GM and Ford average
    80% to 85%. If these percentages ever reverse, then it will matter to
    foreign car lovers. Facts simply don't matter to them when they don't
    happen to be in their favor. To them, as Business Week reported Dec. 12,
    2005, "the economy is unstoppable as the Indianapolis Colts" and foreign
    purchases have no national negative effect. If you watched the Super Bowl
    last Sunday you probably noticed that the Indianapolis Colts weren't
    playing.
    I'm sure that this article will not sit well with those who automatically
    receive it as part of their free "Buy American Mention of the Week"
    subscription and advocate the demise of GM and Ford. And I'm also sure I'll
    receive many "unsubscribe" requests as a result. But I don't really care. I
    don't like writing for people I don't like any more than I like giving
    speeches to groups I don't like. These articles are not designed to make
    anyone feel less of an American for their past foreign purchases, but
    rather they aim to persuade American consumers to make the right purchases
    in the future.
    Those who do agree with the facts and the opinions I have presented, I urge
    you to forward or distribute my auto industry articles to fellow Americans
    that need to see them. Simply visit www.overthehillcarpeople.com to see the
    auto industry articles I've written since May 2005. I'm not sure how much
    time GM and Ford have left to turn things around given the obstacles they
    must overcome that have been put there for bogus and unpatriotic reasons.
    And remember, the next time someone accuses you of questioning their
    patriotism because of their foreign car, tell them that if it's not
    unpatriotic to destroy the American middle class, then it's not unpatriotic
    to buy foreign cars!
    Roger Simmermaker, author of How Americans Can Buy American: The Power of
    Consumer Patriotism, published this article on his Web site,
    www.howtobuyamerican.com.

    The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

    2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

    Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
    Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
    sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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    • #3
      I've said it before, I'll say it again. The government has the ability to control this. years ago, the taxes imposed on imports made the domestic cars more affordable in comparison. Once our government relaxed those taxes due to pressure from other countries due to what was called infringment of free trade, the import sales went thought the roof. I don't know exactly who is ultimately responsible, but I'm not so sure it is the consumer. Raise the taxes on imports and watch what happens to domestic sales.

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      • #4
        While the domestics do have some good products, they are not the best in everything.

        Take Minivans, for example. For a vary long time, Dodge had the best van out there with the Caravan. Not any more.

        My family went to the Chicago Auto Show a couple months ago and let me tell you Dodge no longer competes. The dodge does not offer a power sunroof, heated seats, the windows in the sliding doors don't go down, the "stow and go" mechanisms are comparitively crappy, the rear suspension is a live axle beam, they do not offer electronic stability control, as many airbags, and the overall feel of the interior is not nearly as nice.

        We looked at every single minivan there, and guess what? The Hyundai Entourage/Kia Sedona twins were the talk of the show. Followed by the Toyota Sienna. The Hyundai/Kia has a 240hp V6, is built like a tank with 4 wheel independent suspension, 6-bolt lugs, Electronic stability control, a sunroof, heated seats, power windows in the sliding doors, 6 airbags and it looks better too. It also offeres all the options Dodge has, like the power sliding doors and DVD setup.

        So, is Scott saying I should "bend over and take one for the home team" and continue to buy the Dodge products?

        Sorry, I cant do that. It is Dodge's responsibility to make a van that can compete. If they had one, i'd buy it, heck I own a 2003 Caravan right now.

        My next van will be a 2006 Hyundai Entourage. That is one sweet van. Sorry Dodge, you lost me.
        Tracy
        2002 C5 M6 Convertible
        1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
        Current Mods:
        SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids

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        • #5
          Originally posted by TraceZ
          While the domestics do have some good products, they are not the best in everything.

          Take Minivans, for example. For a vary long time, Dodge had the best van out there with the Caravan. Not any more.

          My family went to the Chicago Auto Show a couple months ago and let me tell you Dodge no longer competes. The dodge does not offer a power sunroof, heated seats, the windows in the sliding doors don't go down, the "stow and go" mechanisms are comparitively crappy, the rear suspension is a live axle beam, they do not offer electronic stability control, as many airbags, and the overall feel of the interior is not nearly as nice.

          We looked at every single minivan there, and guess what? The Hyundai Entourage/Kia Sedona twins were the talk of the show. Followed by the Toyota Sienna. The Hyundai/Kia has a 240hp V6, is built like a tank with 4 wheel independent suspension, 6-bolt lugs, Electronic stability control, a sunroof, heated seats, power windows in the sliding doors, 6 airbags and it looks better too. It also offeres all the options Dodge has, like the power sliding doors and DVD setup.

          So, is Scott saying I should "bend over and take one for the home team" and continue to buy the Dodge products?

          Sorry, I cant do that. It is Dodge's responsibility to make a van that can compete. If they had one, i'd buy it, heck I own a 2003 Caravan right now.

          My next van will be a 2006 Hyundai Entourage. That is one sweet van. Sorry Dodge, you lost me.

          I think Scott would rather you buy the GM van......

          The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

          2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

          Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
          Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
          sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by wolfman
            I think Scott would rather you buy the GM van......

            Yeah, LOL... I'm sure you are right. Too bad GM doesnt make a minivan that could even be remotely competative with the new Korean ones.

            Trust me, if there was a GM van that was as nice as these Korean twins, I'd have one. How hard can it be to pack a bunch of nice options on a minivan?
            Tracy
            2002 C5 M6 Convertible
            1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
            Current Mods:
            SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids

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            • #7
              My dad had a early 90's Caravan. It was red and he kept it running really well and it looked very nice. He upgraded to a newer caravan but that old red one could survive the apocalypse!

              2002 Firehawk Sold

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