And the Middle East gets worse

[Black97]

Ya know, once again, I wish Canadians would stay the heck out of American politics and issues. Canada and it's politics, politicians, health care (or lack thereof), military (or lack thereof), etc, etc, is screwed up enough that ya'll need to be looking in instead of out at other countries. If you have such a low opinion of the way our country works, keep it to yourself. Just my $0.02

Way to go DeWynter!

I know George Dubya doesn't see it like that. Why otherwise would he keep trying to have Canada join the war in Iraq and join the missle defense program?

I don't have a low opinion of the US. Used to live and work there. I said it before, you have kids go hungry and people die during heat waves. Just look at the disaster in New Orleans. In the meantime Billions of your money is being spent elsewhere in the world.

Did you read the link about how much money the US is giving away to Israel. Sometimes they even lend the money back to the US to make money on the interest.

As a taxpayer that would p.... me off royally. But then I guess we Canadians aren't as easy going and laid back as you guys in the South.

Maybe we get to produce the new Camaro so more good things can come from Canada.

[fastTa]

Who says God did...the Jewish writers of the Old Testament did. No difference to me then between that and self-proclamation.

Now if God holds a press conference and makes such a proclamation I'll take it as coming from God, otherwise it is merely the words of men to me.

It was just an observation on my part that folks might resent a group who claim they are special.

Moses was an Israelite of the tribe of Levi. The tribe of Levi descended from Levi, son of Jacob. Moses' forefather Levi lived four centuries before the time of Moses. The time period of when Moses walked the Earth is debated, but most theologians and Christians alike agree that it was most likely between the 13th and 15th centuries B.C.

In the days of Moses, the tribe of Judah existed, but the Jewish people as we now know them did not yet exist. The Jewish nation did not come into existence until 10th century B.C. after the reign of King Solomon, roughly 300 to 500 years after the time of Moses. The Jews are the identifiable remnant of Israel's ancient southern kingdom, which came into being several centuries after Moses' time. The Bible has proven time and time again to be historically accurate, and there is absolutely no historical evidence that would suggest the existence of Juadaism during the time of Moses much less Adam or Noah.

In lamens terms... Moses was not Jewish. Moses is widely accepted by Christians to have written the scripture we now call Pentateuch, or the first five books of the Bible (Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy); obviously Genesis being the first and most important in describing the history of the Israelites. The collective efforts and writings of these books is taken as the Law, or Torah of Moses. Moses was provided actual written records of the past, organized them, and drafted them together in the final scripture as we now know it, as guided by the Holy Spirit. These methods would be consistent with both the doctrine of plenary verbal inspiration and that of Mosaic authorship Do you honestly think that God would entrust his sacred word to the volatile memory of human beings so that it would any way be susceptible to inaccuracy? The Word of God (scripture) says quite the contrary.

Point is.....all of the historical accounts contained within the Bible were likely compiled and edited directly by a man, however that in no way minmizes the works of God. Whether or not a man served as compiler and/or editor of the actual written material is a moot point. As all material was written, the Holy Spirit (God) authoritatively and authentically guided and instructed the humans as so there were absolutely no inaccuracies contained within the texts.

[TODD 2000 V6 CAMARO]

I wish I could stay out of this one, but, you have recived wrong info or just don't care enough to look. Canada has problems, not unlike the US. Yes we have a problem with military spending(or lack there of) and the people have shown that it was unacceptable by ditching the liberals, which has been Canadas worst problem. Whe have health care that is significantly better than anything currently offered in the US that isin't Priavate. Canada's problem lies in the east. It has the majority of the population and the french. The Liberals catered to them and thumbed their nose at the west. Finally the winds of change are blowing. While Canada may have problems, I feel we are trying to fix them, but like anything run by politics it takes time. And if you would like to have everyone quit getting in your affairs then quit stating your the police of the world and that its the US that has to take care of everything. If you make proclimations and stand out front, expect to have criticism. Its like the stars of hollywood, if your famous, you have no personal life. Being your closest neghbor and being so tied to the US and Vise versa I think Canadains have a right to put their two cents in, like it or not we are joined at the hip. Things that happen in the US affect Canada. OH and ps the best thing to come out of Canada would be your oil and water and power and allies every time you guys piss someone off in the rest of the world. Also we support your operations in Afghanistan so that you can send more troops to Iraq and where ever else you guys need to be, when you guys needed support in Bosnia we were there, in the first Gulf war Canada was there so DON'T be whining about Canada cause we are the only people who are guaranteed to support you guys, this is the first time in fifty years when Canada hasn't sent troops into one of your engagements!!!!!

Buddy, my wife is Canadian, so I don't think I have recieved wrong info. I lived up there from Jan of 2002 to Jan of this year. I listened to countless Candians telling me how stupid Americans are and how screwed up our goverment is and so on and so forth. Yes, you are our allies, but I see that more as us protecting you than vice versa. Yes, you send troops to help us out, and we are grateful. But when the very people Canadians vote into power openly criticize and insult American leadership, it kind of grates on people's nerves. Oh, and the health care I recieved in Saskatchewan is nothing compared to the heathcare that I, admittedly begudgingly, pay for here. I would rather pay for my health care and know that if I have a heart attack or need a CT scan, or need to see a specialist, that I can be taken to the nearest hospital and receive world class care instead of having to take an ambulace ride 2-3 hours away to to the nearest relatively big city to get average health care. When you go to the hospital and the ceiling tiles are litterally falling out of the ancient cieling, and when you have to give a urine sample and they give you a freakin dixie cup instead of a proper specimin cup with a lid, you know things are bad. I don't hate Canadians, or ven dislike you. Shoot, I married a Canadian and love my in-laws and love the friends I made up there. But it really bugs me when Canadians climb up on their pedestal and start bashing Americans with their usual holier-than-thou attitude towards us. And yes, we tend to be the world police. We are the only remaining super-power for crap's sake. That kind of power comes with responsibility. If the U.S. didn't stop Sadaam the first time, who would have? The few thousand, or in some cases, hundred, soldiers other countries send over??? Or the most powerful military in the world that can send tens of thousand troops into a skirmish along with the most advanced weapons? I'm not discounting the aid that other countries provide to take care of such situations, I am just saying that sometimes situations couldn't be resolved without the U.S.'s help. I wish sometimes that we could just keep to ourselves and say screw the rest of the world and let them fix their own problems if they hate us so much.
Ok, now I'm just ranting. Anyway, just stop and consider how much stuff is wrong with your own country before you bash mine. Or next time I reply, it could be with every little thing that I can think of that is wrong with Canada, and that could be a loooooong post.

[fastTa]

Canada and the US are brothers....and we all know how brothers can be.

I think Canada and the US make a very good team. It is evident in the volume of bilateral trading. Something along the lines of $1.5 billion a day in goods, services, and investment income. There were something like 125 million documented border crossings last year (2005). Look at all the law enforcement cooperation and environmental cooperation. Free trade between our two countries remains very strong. Our two countries work very closely on many complex federal and local levels.

Heck, I've sold parts to two of the Canadians in this thread!

C'mon brothers.....let's stop the pissing contest.

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

C'mon brothers.....let's stop the pissing contest.

OK, but I could refrain from drinking beer for a week and still piss further, longer, and higher than you, cowgirl, and no holding it, either.

And as far as the mid east is concerned, WHAT A MESS!!! Considering that religion started there, they sure have made a hobby of killing and hatred!

[fastTa]

OK, but I could refrain from drinking beer for a week and still piss further, longer, and higher than you, cowgirl, and no holding it, either.

And as far as the mid east is concerned, WHAT A MESS!!! Considering that religion started there, they sure have made a hobby of killing and hatred!

Shoot, I'll just open your hood and piss on your opti.....then what are you gonna do?.......huh... you Yank!

[Black97]

Heck, I've sold parts to two of the Canadians in this thread!

Long live Free Trade !

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

Shoot, I'll just open your hood and piss on your opti.....then what are you gonna do?.......huh... you Yank!

I would have to concede the contest - When it comes to forced urea stream corrosiveness, I have no doubt you got me beat hands down

BTW, I just a displaced Arizona boy.

[MarkFL]

...Point is.....all of the historical accounts contained within the Bible were likely compiled and edited directly by a man, however that in no way minmizes the works of God. Whether or not a man served as compiler and/or editor of the actual written material is a moot point. As all material was written, the Holy Spirit (God) authoritatively and authentically guided and instructed the humans as so there were absolutely no inaccuracies contained within the texts.

that is up for debate, as it takes faith to believe that. I don't like things being left to faith...I like provable fact. That so many can get by on faith is great, but it is not for me.

didn't mean to go off topic.

as for the Americans stranded in Lebanon...sorry you're scared and not having a good time, but hello, do you know where you went???

[Joe 1320]

as for the Americans stranded in Lebanon...sorry you're scared and not having a good time, but hello, do you know where you went???

I was thinking the same thing. An area like that is one of the last places I would want to be, even before the present conflict.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

I was thinking the same thing. An area like that is one of the last places I would want to be, even before the present conflict.

They were talking about the Americans over there in college and being stranded. All I could think about was what kind of parent would send their kid to that area to go to college. What we don't have any good colleges in the US?

[Steel2686]

When people "vacation" in foreign countries with a long history of violence, I have a real hard time feeling sorry for them when things go south. Sure, we should help them get out if at all possible, but not by putting rescuers in harm's way. Most of these people just want to go somewhere like that for the attention.

I worked with a woman at my last job who went to Lebanon in the early 90's. She has also been to the West Bank, Cuba, and Kuwait. Kuwait??? She loved being able to tell people she was there after the Gulf War. Congratulations. You're an idiot.

[Black97]

I was thinking the same thing. An area like that is one of the last places I would want to be, even before the present conflict.

Early in the year my former company asked me to do some contract work in Jordan. I didn't go especially after the new Palestine gouvernment was in power. Many other people that were asked didn't go either.

It would have been good money but with these lunatics running free in the area, no thanks.

[2Fbodcru]

Not to change the subject, but I keep seeing people talking about “we are in the beginning stages of WWIII” (Newt Gingrich), or on the other hand “we welcome WWIII”, etc. I don’t remember any other time in the past 45 years where people were referring to an escalading conflict in those terms. I keep telling myself, that it’s not going to happen, just as a way of keeping my paranoia down, but I believe that the beginnings of WWIII have been predicted to look just like this. Armageddon, “Har Megido” is supposed to be in that region, so of course there is the possibility I guess. It seems to me, that Israel is fed up to say the least. I believe that they feel that they need to destroy their enemies in that region once and for all, and I guess I don‘t blame them.

BTW, Israel keeps getting pounded with missiles, so where are the Patriot missile systems They seemed to have worked very well 15 years ago during the first Gulf War, to keep Saddam from leveling them with his scuds

[Joe 1320]

BTW, Israel keeps getting pounded with missiles, so where are the Patriot missile systems They seemed to have worked very well 15 years ago during the first Gulf War, to keep Saddam from leveling them with his scuds

They aren't getting hit with missles, they are getting hit by close range rockets. The Patriot requires it's radar system seeing something at altitude coming toward a target. Often times these rockets are much smaller and are not flying at high altitude on a decending trajectory. While not very accurate, the rockets are flying under the radar so to speak.