good golly miss molly

[wolfdogs]

http://www.diseno-art.com/encycloped...dition_V8.html

[Joe 1320]

The price has to be nuts.

[wolfdogs]

traction has to be.....down right scary as h#ll.

[Joe 1320]

Well, the thing is...... with drive by wire systems, you can tune the throttle curve however you see fit. In essence, you could get in there and limit throttle to a certian percentage, you could program in a delayed response, reduce throttle on shift, all kinds of neat stuff. If you are a mechanical linkage fan, it feels down right annoying. I just drove 1100 miles in a new rental car with drive by wire and hated the response. Once things ramped up it was acceptable, but that's it. I wouldn't purchase that vehicle period. I guess it could be a double edged sword.

[wolfdogs]

Well, the thing is...... with drive by wire systems, you can tune the throttle curve however you see fit. In essence, you could get in there and limit throttle to a certian percentage, you could program in a delayed response, reduce throttle on shift, all kinds of neat stuff. If you are a mechanical linkage fan, it feels down right annoying. I just drove 1100 miles in a new rental car with drive by wire and hated the response. Once things ramped up it was acceptable, but that's it. I wouldn't purchase that vehicle period. I guess it could be a double edged sword.

I dont even have a throttle body on my ride....... no cables, no wires...

[Trash man]

Well, the thing is...... with drive by wire systems, you can tune the throttle curve however you see fit. In essence, you could get in there and limit throttle to a certian percentage, you could program in a delayed response, reduce throttle on shift, all kinds of neat stuff. If you are a mechanical linkage fan, it feels down right annoying. I just drove 1100 miles in a new rental car with drive by wire and hated the response. Once things ramped up it was acceptable, but that's it. I wouldn't purchase that vehicle period. I guess it could be a double edged sword.

Joe - is it the same feel u get from driving a diesel truck? or is it softer? cuz diesels are drive by wire in a sense

[Steel2686]

I have throttle-by-wire on my Acura. I couldn't stand it. It was either slow. crawling starts or hard launches. It almost kept me from buying it. Now? I've learned through experience to control the throttle response much better.

As Joe said, if you're a fan of mechanical linkage throttles (or just really used to it), you'll hate drive-by-wire for quite a while until you get used to it.

[wolfdogs]

I have throttle-by-wire on my Acura. I couldn't stand it. It was either slow. crawling starts or hard launches. It almost kept me from buying it. Now? I've learned through experience to control the throttle response much better.

As Joe said, if you're a fan of mechanical linkage throttles (or just really used to it), you'll hate drive-by-wire for quite a while until you get used to it.

i had it in my 05 gto... never a problem, in fact, i loved it...

[Joe K. 99 Zeee!!]

My '04 Grand Prix is my first car with drive-by-wire. It is odd and it takes some getting used to.

In my Camaro, I could get the auto to downshift by pushing the throttle about 1/2 way down and could effectively control when the car downshifted.

In the Grand Prix I touch the throttle slightly and the RPM's jump by 1,000 like the car has downshifted, when it actually hasn't, and then they come back down to where they were before. It makes it tough if you're trying to drive efficiently. You have to second guess the computer. There are also times when I've pushed down slightly and the RPM's actually drop ever so slightly.

I've been wondering if a re-programed PCM will help out at all. That's something I think I'll look into.

As far as I can figure, the drive-by-wire system doesn't improve efficiency or throttle response. It does allow the engineers to more closely integrate features such as cruise control, remote start, and onstar, to engine operation. It may even reduce production costs.

[Joe 1320]

Joe - is it the same feel u get from driving a diesel truck? or is it softer? cuz diesels are drive by wire in a sense

Think Turbo diesel with a fair amount of lag.

[Trash man]

so like my Fuso refuse truck?

[Joe 1320]

so like my Fuso refuse truck?

"sigh"........

Yep.

[Trash man]

eh im gettin my CDL soon hopefully, then i can go into a Volvo/Mack but we do have GMC 6 yd pack truck but it needs to be decaled and then registered

[ReBop]

That thing, under full throttle would spin out of control, like a match-head rocket.

But I like it!

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

I looked at the Mallett Solstace a couple years ago and it was the LS2 one - it listed for $50k at the GMC dealer. The know-nothing salesman insisted it had a 350 engine in it even after I questioned it.