Hey Wolfie....

[Joe 1320]

From another forum, someone claims to have purchased a wolf hybrid. Thoughts?

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/077993.html

[raroZ28]

Well I can only assume that the person is experienced and has a vast knowledge of those dogs.

Super cute pup from the pic

[wolfdogs]

LOL... BS. white GSD cross. No wolf. In fact, of those pics are wolfdogs...... typical.. uneducated buyers scammed. "papers"......LOL... anyone can make up papers on the computer, there is no official register for wolfdogs........ heck, I could do papers on my computer showing a wolf possum mix......LOL........ wolfdogs dont have blue eyes either...... the markings blend slowly into the fur lines........ the ears are filled with fur, they eyes are almond shaped, the chest is narrow, the rear legs are cow hocked....... i could go on..... LOL

wolfdog?....... this is a wolfdog.....

[wolfdogs]

LOL Joe, I went back to the link out of curiosity.. LOL... thats for doing that, because education is the key..

say someone turns in a dog to a county shelter.. saying its a wolfdog when its not, the shelter HAS to label it a wolfdog, and that cuts down the chances for adoption by 90% because of liability reasons, it has to go to a certified wolfdog rescue.

yup, of those animals pictured were wolfdogs.

[Joe 1320]

It's a shame is the owner is now in denial. Says he knows he wasn't scammed and starts to justify and defend things. Oh well, some people just refuse to be enlightened.

[wolfdogs]

It's a shame is the owner is now in denial. Says he knows he wasn't scammed and starts to justify and defend things. Oh well, some people just refuse to be enlightened.

and 90% of them do that.

[wolfdogs]

Joe, for the record, you might want to tell that guy one of the favorite tricks of backyard wolfdog breeding is to show high content parents that are not the real parents of the dogs... they do it all the time.
You can also point out that the father could not been a wolf. you cant own a wolf! its illegal.!!! The only way you can have a wolf is to run a wildlife sanctuary and be licensed and quarterly inspected by the USDA Fish and Wildlife and local ACO's... and the regulations are very strict. You have a wolf with out that, and you are going to jail...... And one regulation for having one in a sanctuary is that you can not breed it or the fine and jail time gets even stiffer.

And in the real wolfdog community, we dont use percents.. its impossible to narrow down percent... and the physical percent can be totally different from the genetic percent. We go by low content, mid content, high mid content, and high content. I have seen high content wolfdogs that act more like a dog than a mid content due to genetic inheritance.. and the F factor play a major role. F is the wolf...straight from the wild.. F1 would be fist generation removed from the wild.. and so on. Most wolfdogs are F4 or F5's... that gives time for domestication. My girl happens to be an F3, but I know how to raise wolves and wolfdogs... she's a high mid. Breeders like to lie about the true F factor too........LOL... its a mess.

And the teeth thing, that applies to many dog breeds as well. It just depends on what dogs like to keep their teeth sharp by constant gnawing. I have been with pure wolves in captivity that teeth as dull as my golden retrievers.

I suggest this owner take some time and read the link you sent him from the Wolfdog Project. He really does need to get to know more about wolfdogs.

[wolfdogs]

get our head out from under the hood and your @$$ out from under the chassis and post my chit on that forum............

[Rhode Island Red]

maybe Joe found an all-you-can-eat buffet and longer can leave as he's too fat to fit through the doors

[Joe 1320]

You guys crack me up. How did you know I'm working on a project?



maybe complete (mostly) and driveable within a few weeks.

That and I'm finally stripping the parts off the old T/A so that I can move that out of the garage and put some closure on that whole deal.

[Wild Willy]

Geez, the things I have learned on a 'car' forum- interesting info-

I have always liked GSD's because I think they remind me of wolfs, the real, wild canids. Big variations in size, markings, color and conformation withing GSD's and, I imagine, wolf-dogs, too. Thanks for teaching us more about your four-legged buddies-

My wife has a Bengal car, an Asian leopard. They do that F1, F2 thing, also. How many generations removed from the wild parent. Pretty markings, very vocal and territorial. Nice animal with lots of personality.

[wolfdogs]

Geez, the things I have learned on a 'car' forum- interesting info-

I have always liked GSD's because I think they remind me of wolfs, the real, wild canids. Big variations in size, markings, color and conformation withing GSD's and, I imagine, wolf-dogs, too. Thanks for teaching us more about your four-legged buddies-

My wife has a Bengal car, an Asian leopard. They do that F1, F2 thing, also. How many generations removed from the wild parent. Pretty markings, very vocal and territorial. Nice animal with lots of personality.

you did mean 'cat'......not 'car' right? LOL.

[wolfdogs]

the thing that really makes me boil with this guy though is him calling it a "wolf'...its not a wolf.......... and even if you have a wolfdog.. you dont call it a wolf! you cant own a wolf!!!!!!!!! most ACOs dont know the diff between a real wolf and high content wolfdog.. you go around telling people you have a wolf.. next thing you know, you are going to jail and the animal is put down.....

and his white animal is a dog........

he's ignorant as hell.

[Joe 1320]

the thing that really makes me boil with this guy though is him calling it a "wolf'...its not a wolf.......... and even if you have a wolfdog.. you dont call it a wolf! you cant own a wolf!!!!!!!!! most ACOs dont know the diff between a real wolf and high content wolfdog.. you go around telling people you have a wolf.. next thing you know, you are going to jail and the animal is put down.....

and his white animal is a dog........

he's ignorant as hell.

notice he quit posting.......

[wolfdogs]

notice he quit posting.......

saw that. its so frustrating to the wolfdog community and see this type of thing all the time Joe... thanks for pointing it out to me... hopefully somebody reading that thread learned something.. education is the biggest key when it comes to these animals. thanks again!