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  • #31
    Camaro / Firebird production

    It seems that GM does not want the truth to come out about what happened to the auto's. Lets just say they are right and it was casued by low sales, and or the marketing was not there, and or the cars were not made well enough. If we as a county believe this then we are people that will believe anything.

    It has taken myself a long time to put this on the web as I worked in the plant in Canada that made the cars and here is what the truth is;

    1. The Canada government gave a loan to GM to keep the cars being built across the border this is the facts but what you will not hear is that the unions tried to up the cost per hour for the members to the point that the promise by the union not to raise the hourly cost. The government tried to step in and slove the problem but the union was not going to back down.

    2. The union knew under the agreement that the name camaro and firebird could not be used unitl 2017 and by doing what they did it screwed the people who wanted the car to be built.

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    • #32
      I believe this... because I find that the most credible information source possible will usually come from the internet, posted by a brand new, anonymous member who no one knows, who goes by the handle, "Unknown".

      It's really the best place for true and accurate info, I tell ya.
      Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

      Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Jay 02 TA ws6
        I believe this... because I find that the most credible information source possible will usually come from the internet, posted by a brand new, anonymous member who no one knows, who goes by the handle, "Unknown".

        It's really the best place for true and accurate info, I tell ya.
        Its not like he's repeating what Popular Hot Rodding magazine said a few months ago or anything. Oy
        Steve
        79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
        87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
        93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
        http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Unknown
          It has taken myself a long time to put this on the web as I worked in the plant in Canada that made the cars and here is what the truth is;
          Close...... it's common knowledge that Canada gave GM billions in interest free loans in order to keep the Camaro/Firebird in Canada. In exchange for the interest free loan, Canada would have the exclusive rights to build the cars for as long as the product line existed or until repayment of the loan by 2017. Do the math........ cheaper to make the product go away for several years than to keep the factory open. Then the next generation could be built in a different plant alongside other models that share a platform. GM will still have to repay the loan but can do so with the savings from the now closed factory. So yes, GM killed the car.

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          • #35
            you guys hi-jacked my thread! you are all on the list! kapish?~!!!!!!!!!















            The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

            2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

            Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
            Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
            sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by wolfman
              you guys hi-jacked my thread! you are all on the list! kapish?~!!!!!!!!!














              Its been almost a month and you're just now seeing that?? Geez, you feelin' alright man? Flea problems?

















              d&r :P
              Steve
              79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
              87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
              93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
              http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Steve93Z
                Dude, who's your dealer and can they hook me up?? rotflmao j/k I'm guessing someone is tired of seeing all caps? lol
                my dealer?

                wolves
                wolfdogs
                herbs (legal)
                gym

                and a$$h@les





                the last one gets me going........








                The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

                2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

                Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
                Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
                sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by wolfman
                  my dealer?

                  wolves
                  wolfdogs
                  herbs (legal)
                  gym

                  and a$$h@les





                  the last one gets me going........







                  Great reply there Ken, only to the wrong post :P. Only 8 days though, a definite improvement. The "herbs" must be workin' lol

















                  D&R :P
                  Steve
                  79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
                  87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
                  93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
                  http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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                  • #39
                    Scared me............. I found some old pictures of california kerm.....

                    http://www.fasterbaby.com/slp14.jpg
                    http://www.fasterbaby.com/kerm2.jpg
                    2000 Z28 SLP sub frames, J&M LCA's, KYB shocks, Waitforme tuning. Ported TB & intake 35/22 swaybars, Firehawk tires

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by msfyter
                      Scared me............. I found some old pictures of california kerm.....

                      http://www.fasterbaby.com/slp14.jpg
                      http://www.fasterbaby.com/kerm2.jpg
                      d@mn man, that couldna been me... my mouth never had all that lipstick on it!

                      that kerms a fake!






                      The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

                      2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

                      Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
                      Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
                      sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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                      • #41
                        newbie(self-admitted)

                        Not to be to stupid, but how (or can I) reply to a post w/o it going to bottom/end of the thread? Sites are so diff...am I just being (?)

                        When I want the msg/reply to go to that indiv., what do I do?

                        Thanx(please don't make fun)
                        biyd---i'll deal w/it.

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                        • #42
                          Wolf, you don't have any sub-machine guns do you? I need a loaner. Nice video. Thats what happens to me when I get my electric bill.

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                          • #43
                            trying this

                            trying this

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by jessica2112
                              Wolf, you don't have any sub-machine guns do you? I need a loaner. Nice video. Thats what happens to me when I get my electric bill.
                              dont need no gun honey.....


                              The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

                              2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

                              Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
                              Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
                              sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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                              • #45
                                That's probably one of the funniest things I have ever seen... but I have a quick question for ya wolfman.... what's that noise you make right before "right in the back of your neck"... and could you make it again if requested... because if so I'm requesting!!! roflmao!!!! hahahah That noise is what got me!!! hahahaha
                                '07 Black Tahoe LTZ (my new baby)

                                '96 White Firebird (sold )

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