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  • Proportioning and Metering Valves

    Regarding a 1st gen F-Body

    As I understand it, the metering valve is found under the master cylinder and allows for pressure to go to the rear drum brakes slightly before the front brakes which allows the rear drums to make contact before or at the same time the front discs do.

    The propotioning valve is located under the driver's seat and reduces the pressure to the rear brakes and was used on AC equipped cars because that added an additional 200 lbs to the front increasing the chance of rear lockup.

    However, my car is 4 wheel drum brakes and I'm in the process of converting to disc/drum setup and I coulding find a prop valve under the drivers seat on the frame. Originally, the car did not have AC which is probably why I couldn't find a prop valve. Currently, the car does have AC but the lack of a prop valve never seemed to cause a problem.

    There is a metering valve under the master cylinder (at least I think its a metering valve) and I've read that several people have bypassed this metering valve with no ill effects. As I don't think its causing problems, I see little reason I should bypass/remove it.

    Here's the big question though.... (bolded to draw attention to it in case no one feels like reading the rest of my mind-dribble) I'm converting an old Firebird from drum/drum to disc/drum, the car has AC. Will I be ok without a prop valve? I have one coming in the mail, but I don't know if I have need of it, and if I'm correct about how its installed, I don't have the necessary steel brake lines either.

    2003 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V

    PROJECT: Firebird '68 Firebird Convertible // 455 Engine // 389 Tri-Power Intake // 4 Speed Manual Trans

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    Question is kinda moot now. What I have coming in the mail is actually a combonation valve, it does metering and proportioning and it looks like I'll be able to connect it directly below the master cylinder.

    2003 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V

    PROJECT: Firebird '68 Firebird Convertible // 455 Engine // 389 Tri-Power Intake // 4 Speed Manual Trans

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    • #3
      I think you'll need to regulate pressure to the rears. Your rear brakes should only do about 30-40% of your stopping. Otherwise, you risk them locking up under heavy braking.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by N20LT4Bird
        I think you'll need to regulate pressure to the rears. Your rear brakes should only do about 30-40% of your stopping. Otherwise, you risk them locking up under heavy braking.
        Agreed, apparantly the air conditioning was enough of a weight shift for the designers to add a prop valve, but there wasn't one on the car to begin with because it didn't come with AC. AC was added to the car, but there wasn't a problem with the rears locking up. Now that discs are on the front, and discs take more fluid, I don't know if that means the drums will get more fluid too... but I guess that doesn't really matter because the combo valve (metering and proportioning in one unit) should be at my parents house now. It will be used next weekend.

        I'm getting tired of dealing with the guy I bought it from though. He doesn't respond to emails, doesn't return phone calls, and doesn't come though with his promises of documentation. I just want to know what brake pads I can buy to replace these, or rotors, etc. Installation instructions would be nice, but I didn't expect to get them anyway, but he said they'd fax it to me along with the requested part numbers.....

        2003 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec-V

        PROJECT: Firebird '68 Firebird Convertible // 455 Engine // 389 Tri-Power Intake // 4 Speed Manual Trans

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