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    http://www.newsday.com/news/local/lo...0,534813.story

    My dad's friends family is like my third family. I used to spend just about every spare minute of my life with them. I met this guy Lou through them. He was a really good guy. He would be at their house every so often. I always liked him which is kind of surprising since he was a drinker and i hate drinkers. He was very quiet and pretty much kept to himself but anyone could go up to him and strike up a conversation with him. He was a really cool guy. Unfortunately, Lou was murdered on Friday morning. Lou and his friend were at a strip club and there was some problem (probably because of his friend but the kid won't say a word). A group of black guys apparently held this kid down and forced him to watch as they stomped on Lou's head until they felt they were done. He died not too long after. When i found out i got pretty angry. Actually i got really angry. I screamed at my girlfriend and my dad like it was their fault (they knew him too and they both liked him). They simply refused to understand why i was so angry. They chalked it off as being in the wrong place at the wrong time. I think it goes a lot deeper than that. I'm really friggin upset about this
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    I read the story and hopefully they will catch the ones involved and justice will be served.

    My sincere condolences to you and all of his family and friends.
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    • #3
      I understand that some people have their differences and some times those differences can land you in a fight, but since when did the purpose of a fight become something more than a settlement of problems between two people? Three against one is in no way a fight no matter how big of a guy you are. Once you have beaten someone to the point that they can no longer stand, how can you still have the taste to fight? I could never live with myself if i knew that I permanently affected someones life let alone ended it, especially over something so mundane. I just don't understand what causes people to lose their sense of shame and honor in our world today. I am sorry for your loss and send my condolences to yours and his family.
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      • #4
        I know where you're coming from. My best friend at the time got into a similar altercation in a parking lot outside of a club. I had just left, and apparently something happened between my friend and another guy. This guy hit him with a tire iron in the head twice. He had a fractured skull, a ruptured eardrum, a concussion, and a host of other injuries. He was in ICU for a week and they honestly thought he was going to die. They never caught the guy either. Pisses you off, I know, but there's not really much you can do.
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        • #5
          It's truly sad that things end like that. I, like the majority of people, have gotten in scuffles and what not with other people...but I could never imagine taking anything that far. Fighting is stupid to begin with....it should always be nothing but a last resort. Sadly today, not only do some people like to fight for no reason, but they're too chicken to do it themselves, get other people to back them up, and don't know when to stop. I truly hope that @sshole gets caught and that justice will be served to him.

          My condolences to you, your family, and his family.
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          • #6
            There's just no room in the world for scum like that. Hopefully they'll all be caught and "dealt with" before they even make it to jail. If the cop's gun happens to go off in the direction of the suspect, oh well. The last thing we need is more garbage crowding our prisons that we have to pay for.

            Anyway, I am deeply sorry for your loss. You have my condolences.
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            • #7
              The same thing happened to a friend of the family. He and another guy went up north(michigan) to go snowmobiling. Well they went to a bar and got into it with a bunch of hillbillies. Well, the guy(the one who was murdered) he was with is a big, tough, fighter and wasn't having a problem whooping on 2 of the guys, the other hillbillies guys held down the family friend and put a gun to his head. They told the big tough guy to stop kicking the crap out of the other hillbillies or he was gonna shoot the guy. Well the big guy stopped and they shot the family friend in the head anyway while the other guy watched. It is hard to imagine what makes someone do such aweful things. The family friend was only 21.
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              • #8
                Sorry for your loss. It's never easy to loose someone.
                Beau

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                • #9
                  This would be in the national news if it had been 3 white guys that kicked in a black guy's skull. They'd be accused of commiting a hate crime, etc.. Instead, it's just local news. They didn't even mention the perp's skin color in the news article. Yeah, it's really easy to catch people whan you dont even mention their skin color. The news agencys are so liberal and P.C. I really hope they catch those guys and justice gets served. Sorry for your loss but don't let it turn you into a racist. There are pleny of terrible white people in the world too.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TraceZ
                    This would be in the national news if it had been 3 white guys that kicked in a black guy's skull. They'd be accused of commiting a hate crime, etc.. Instead, it's just local news. They didn't even mention the perp's skin color in the news article. Yeah, it's really easy to catch people whan you dont even mention their skin color. The news agencys are so liberal and P.C. I really hope they catch those guys and justice gets served. Sorry for your loss but don't let it turn you into a racist. There are pleny of terrible white people in the world too.
                    I'm already racist so this just fuels it. As you said though, since it was three blacks on a white kid there won't be any Al Sharpton or mass media coverage or hate crime charges. I don't just hate everything that isn't white. There are plenty of non white members on this board and i don't have a darn thing against them. We're all buds here and i'd never intentionally offend anyone here. I think that this board has nothing but good people on it (excluding the occasional troll). I'm not about to go into why i'm racist because as i said before, i don't want to offend anyone here. It's extremely frustrating to know that a good person was murdered though. I can't even imagine what it was over because Lou wasn't into drugs, he was passive and he wasn't aggressive when he drank. Maybe the guy he was with did something stupid, maybe one of the other guys said or did something that got him angry, i really have no idea. I really hope that the guys are caught and punished to the fullest extent of the law. Not only did they beat the kid to death (literally), not only was it intentional but they held his friend and made him watch it happen. These people are about as worthless as the ones from that PETA link that Wolfman posted where the guys just skinned animals alive for their fur. I wish i could turn back time
                    Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
                    SOLD- Kinda miss it
                    94 Del Sol VTEC: 27 city/ 33 highway, knee deep in slowness
                    SOLD- Good riddance!
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                    • #11
                      Freaking gang mentality. This sort of thing is much more likely to happen when there is more than one assailant. It's almost as if no one of the guys wants to stop the attack until one of the others stops. Almost like, "Well, he is still doing it, so it is ok for me to continue." Unfortunately, it is usually too lte by the time they stop. I hate that sort of mentality, and I hate to sound racist, but it seems all too often to be younger black men who participate in this sort of thing. I'm sure there are lots of white people who have done this too, but you don't hear about it as much. I think people just have gotten so desensitized to violence of this nature that they just think the guy will live. I sat on a jury for a capital murder case that was very similar to this. We found the gu guilty and he got a 40 year suspended sentence. I hpe the people who are responsible for this are caught and dealt with appropriately. I also hope that they resist arrest and get the s*$& kicked out of them by the cops. My condolences to you, your family, and the family of the victim.

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                      • #12
                        It's not sounding racist, that's what the liberals want you to think. You're right though. There are always the white people that went around beating gas station and convienience store workers that were middle eastern after September 11th but that stopped. I've had many an encounter with blacks and latinos. They're cowards one on one but they'll swarm you. My friend and i nearly died one night because of some stupid latino gang. We went into a Wendy's because the girls we were with got hungry. There were about 10 latinos there. We thought nothing of it. They didn't bother us (i was with my friend Rich and he had them intimidated, you could hear them talking about him). Suddenly, 10 more walked in, then 10 more, then 10 more. Suddenly they had a problem with us. I've had black friends, well, more associates than friends. One on one, we'd laugh our butts off together. Once their black friends showed up, i was a dumb "cracka" to them.
                        Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
                        SOLD- Kinda miss it
                        94 Del Sol VTEC: 27 city/ 33 highway, knee deep in slowness
                        SOLD- Good riddance!
                        2006 Ford Fusion: 2.3, 5 speed, could run 15lbs of boost with a 150 shot and it'd still be slow

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Nightrage
                          It's not sounding racist, that's what the liberals want you to think. You're right though. There are always the white people that went around beating gas station and convienience store workers that were middle eastern after September 11th but that stopped. I've had many an encounter with blacks and latinos. They're cowards one on one but they'll swarm you. My friend and i nearly died one night because of some stupid latino gang. We went into a Wendy's because the girls we were with got hungry. There were about 10 latinos there. We thought nothing of it. They didn't bother us (i was with my friend Rich and he had them intimidated, you could hear them talking about him). Suddenly, 10 more walked in, then 10 more, then 10 more. Suddenly they had a problem with us. I've had black friends, well, more associates than friends. One on one, we'd laugh our butts off together. Once their black friends showed up, i was a dumb "cracka" to them.
                          Sounds like my experiences in HS. I almost got into a fight with this black kid once, it was just coming ot the point where both of us had thrown a couple of light punches...and all of a sudden there were about 15 of his buddies surrounding us. I backed off, bent to get my books and got sucker punched...they are mighty brave in groups I tell ya.

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                          • #14
                            I can't tell you how much the liberal mentallity of this country annoys me. Fortunately, it seems there are more Democrats converting over to Republican than the opposite. The problem is, it took 9/11 to make some of the libs realize their way of thinking won't work with those animals.

                            It's the same thing with vicious crimes like this. A liberal will want to "rehabilitate" the prisoners. Yeah? What about the poor guy who was killed for no reason? Will he ever be rehabilitated? Stupid liberals....
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                            • #15
                              The worst part is that my sociology class (the one that i should like the most seeing as how psychology is my major) is taught by a bleeding heart liberal. It's torture. If it were up to her, there would be slave reparations, everyone would be involved in an interracial relationship because it's beautiful to be able to accept one another and someone that said "Yo, i'ma come peep yo crib" would be just as likely to be able to get an appointment to go check out a house or apartment as people that spoke english the way that the rest of us do. My school has a class that gives legitimate credits as if you were in an english class only you discuss hip hop lyrics. Hip hop lyrics? Half of these people just make words up when they can't find something that rhymes. Stupid liberals
                              Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
                              SOLD- Kinda miss it
                              94 Del Sol VTEC: 27 city/ 33 highway, knee deep in slowness
                              SOLD- Good riddance!
                              2006 Ford Fusion: 2.3, 5 speed, could run 15lbs of boost with a 150 shot and it'd still be slow

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