Do you gentlemen suppose it's possible to swap a cam in a 3rd gen while the engine is still in the car.
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Yes but you have to pull the Rad, and A/C condencer if you have one. oh and the oil cooler if you have one. and the fans if electrical. Of course you have to pull the mechanical ones to but it already coming off with the water pump. Its pretty much the same amount of work to pull the engine, might be a bit easier out of the engine, but then you have to unhook all lines and wires too to pull the engine. Only problem i see is the amount of room in the engine bay to work and the abuse the fenders are going to get from leaning on them. You still have to remove everything but the heads anyways to do it.
Eric W.
89 Firebird Formula WS6
Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
6.2L/382.97 ci
Custom PROM Dyno tuned
WCT-5 speed
BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
Boss MS 18" Rims
Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
Custom Dual exhaust
1LE upgrade
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Originally posted by DeWynterYes but you have to pull the Rad, and A/C condencer if you have one. oh and the oil cooler if you have one. and the fans if electrical. Of course you have to pull the mechanical ones to but it already coming off with the water pump. Its pretty much the same amount of work to pull the engine, might be a bit easier out of the engine, but then you have to unhook all lines and wires too to pull the engine. Only problem i see is the amount of room in the engine bay to work and the abuse the fenders are going to get from leaning on them. You still have to remove everything but the heads anyways to do it.
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where's the encouragement guys?1999 Ram Air Trans Am. M6
SFC( not sure what kind), drilled/slotted rotors, K&N air filter, all free mods, 3" Borla cat back exaust, electric exaust cut out, NGK spark plugs, royal purple motor oil, and Zaino .Maybe more. I find more stuff done to it everytime I look at it.
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I'm not saying dont do it, I personally would, and I encourage anyone to do their own work, its much more satisfying. But I never want to candy coat what is involved. Just for a cam swap here is what I feel is necessary(for My car, 89 formula TPI):
Remove Intake to MAF hose (only TPI 86-89)
Remove MAF(only TPI 86-89)
Remove MAF to air filter hose(only 86-89)
Remove Intake to Air filter hose(only 90-92)
Remove Air cleaner(only TBI or Carb)
Remove upper and lower rad hoses
Remove upper rad support
Remove Electric fans (2)
Remove rad
Remove A/C condenser rad
Remove Oil cooler Rad
Remove Intake (TPI or TBI) Includes removing all sensor wires and injector wires)
Remove valve covers
Remove Rockers (or loosen)
Remove push rods
Remove Lifters
Remove Water pump
Remove timing chain cover (may require loosening of the Oil pan)
Remove timing chain and sprocket
Remove Cam
Now just do the opposite!
By no means do I mean to scare anyone, but this isnt the easiest to do while working in a tight third gen engine bay. TPI is worse due to the AIR equipment routing. I havent worked on any TBI cars really, so I cant say if there is more or less room. If you are changing the cam, you might as well do the bearings if you can. Or if the bearings are new I wouldn't. I just cant see an easier way to do it. Just my 2 cents on how to do it.
Eric W.
89 Firebird Formula WS6
Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
6.2L/382.97 ci
Custom PROM Dyno tuned
WCT-5 speed
BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
Boss MS 18" Rims
Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
Custom Dual exhaust
1LE upgrade
Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
In a constant state of upgrade!
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Sounds just like an LS1 swap - do it yourself - it is not bad!Silver 02 WS-6, 6 speed, Corsa cat-back, SLP lid, K&N filter, BMR STB, !CAGs, Lou's short stick, MSD wires, MTI "Hammer" cam, ASP underdrive pulley, Hooker LTs, Hooker ORY, Comp 918s, TR pushrods, UMI Sfcs, UMI LCAs, NGK TR55s, Hotchkis springs
Dyno'd 4/24: 330.9 RWHP/ 344.8 RWTQ (Before cam, headers, and pulley)
Dyno'd 5/1: 383.5 RWHP / 380.5 RWTQ (393 actual RWHP)
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It's not that bad, the only thing that makes me mad is with the TPI I'm gonna spend about the same amount of money on gaskets as I will the cam.1999 Ram Air Trans Am. M6
SFC( not sure what kind), drilled/slotted rotors, K&N air filter, all free mods, 3" Borla cat back exaust, electric exaust cut out, NGK spark plugs, royal purple motor oil, and Zaino .Maybe more. I find more stuff done to it everytime I look at it.
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Originally posted by L98TAIt's not that bad, the only thing that makes me mad is with the TPI I'm gonna spend about the same amount of money on gaskets as I will the cam.
Eric W.
89 Firebird Formula WS6
Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
6.2L/382.97 ci
Custom PROM Dyno tuned
WCT-5 speed
BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
Boss MS 18" Rims
Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
Custom Dual exhaust
1LE upgrade
Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
In a constant state of upgrade!
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