Why are WS6's so much more expensive than SS's?

[MyCamaroisGone]

Hey folks, my buddy is a Cobra owner and presented me with an interesting question today...If an SS and WS6 are essentially the same car, why is the WS6 so much more expensive?

I didn't have an answer for him other than better sound system.

[tabahr]

Firebirds have always been more costly than similar Camaros. I dont see much difference, really... their interiors and seats are nicer, and like you said the stereo is better. I dunno. They have a slightly less redneck image too. I choose to sava buck and drive a Camaro, myself.

Tracy

[Joe K. 99 Zeee!!]

I'd say the interior is a heck of a lot better...at least in looks. Firebirds tend to come with more standard equipment too. I don't know how a WS6 standard equip would compare with an SS though.

[Stealth Performance]

your on da money tracy

[Joe 1320]

Comparably equipped, the Pontiac is roughly $2K more than the Chevy. Also, there are a few options on the SS that are standard on the T/A. It's all a pricing game. I've only seen a handful of cars equipped for a budget price. At one point, I was shopping for an SS with a hardtop, cloth interior, roll up windows, etc. It was next to impossible to locate an SS that way, but there were a few out there. The T/A was a losing proposition, they all came loaded to the max with a much higher sticker. Try to find a hardtop T/A with cloth interior. Finding a hardtop Formula with cloth interior and a 6 speed was like trying to win the lottery.

[Joe K. 99 Zeee!!]

Originally posted by Joe 1320
Try to find a hardtop T/A with cloth interior.

Weren't T-Tops standard on T/A's after 98 or so? They were loaded with standard options.

[markd79ta]

The sticker reflects the standard option difference in price. Resale reflects the notoriety difference in perception. I think there is a greater appeal to the looks of the '98-'02 WS6. Personally, I really like the LT1 Camaros with the ground effects and there wasn't a strong appeal to the '98 up Camaro, but I like them both equally. ...but, you have to look toward the masses to find fluctuations in price tag and resale. The f-bodies come loaded because gadgets appeal to the masses.

[Joe K. 99 Zeee!!]

Originally posted by markd79ta
The f-bodies come loaded because gadgets appeal to the masses.

And the profits appeal to the Dealers.

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

Originally posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
And the profits appeal to the Dealers.

Yes! Dealers suck the Grand Wazoo.

Back in late '94, I was at a Chevy dealer on a Sunday looking at a used Z28 which was loaded, but they wanted $22k for it (on the sheet) which I thought was just rediculous. The place was closed, but someone saw my truck and ran my plates and called me at home to ask me if I was interested in the car. I said "You got to be kidding at that price, I don't even want to talk about it!" I bought the TA for $23.1k a week later. Now I realize a nice new Z could be had a lot cheaper than that, but it's just another example of how bad dealers suck.
Another example - in '97 when the new 98's were coming out, I stopped by the dealer to inquire about a trade in for my car which was a like new '95 with 7k on the clock and they not only offered me $14k for it, but then tried to sell me a '97 which is damn near the same thing I already got. Stupid tools. As far as the guy that made me wait for 1/2 hr just to offer me 14 grand for my car - I wouldn't cross the street to piss in his ear if his brain was on fire. That's waht I think of dealers.

[TODD 2000 V6 CAMARO]

Not to defend dealers too much, but I used to sell chevy's for a year or so. As far as the trade in thing, rarely ever does the salesman himself have anything to do with what you are offered for your car. The apraising manager makes that decision. But, they do always make a low offer at first. They figure if they can get you to agree with the amount they are offering you for your trade, then they can use some of the value in it that they are holding back to use in discounting the price of the new car. See, that way they can make it look like they are giving you a discount when, in reality, they aren't. I worked in that job just long enough to realize that an honest guy doesn't have much of a chance to make any money at it, and that there are alot of tricks up the sleeve of a good salesman. I just didn't like cheating people like that. However, I did have a few experiences with people who were offered more than bluebook on their trade ( I even showed them in an up-to-date bluebook) and they still wanted more for it just because "they think it is worth more." Those people were the ones who usually left mad, only to come back and buy the car they were looking at anyway because they realized no one else was going to give them more for the trade. Just be an educated shopper, salesmen appreciate that alot more than people who don't know what they are talking about. I'm not saying any of this in reference to the last post as 14,000 does sound low, but you knwo what I mean.

[wolfdogs]

chain of command:

1. caddy
2. buick
3. pontiac
4. chevy


any questions?

[MarkFL]

Originally posted by wolfman
chain of command:

1. caddy
2. buick
3. pontiac
4. chevy


any questions?

pontiac = chevys for the ladies (worded more PC let's say fancified). you ladies get no 'vette, kapish?

(d&r&lmao!!)

told ya you stepped in summin' you can't wipe off, Ken.

[djphonics]

Originally posted by gauSSian
pontiac = chevys for the ladies (worded more PC let's say fancified). you ladies get no 'vette, kapish?

(d&r&lmao!!)

told ya you stepped in summin' you can't wipe off, Ken.

I agree with what your saying but GM needs another sportier brand which pontiac will soon take over i think. They're even bringing back the GTO. Chevy lost the camaro, and now they only got the vette...30k more then the camaro roughly.
The new sunfire looks more aggressive then it's brother or sister cavalier. Chevy should take the sportier car in my opinion, especially since if you look at heritage pontiac is rarely brought up(basically GTO).
I say let me design a new camaro, and chevy will be back in the pack.
New Camino equals SSR sick ride

[Joe 1320]

Originally posted by djphonics

New Camino equals SSR sick ride

I would be more excited about the SSR if it weighed 1000 lbs less. The same package, same engine but 3400 lb maximum would generate lots more excitement.

[djphonics]

Originally posted by Joe 1320
I would be more excited about the SSR if it weighed 1000 lbs less. The same package, same engine but 3400 lb maximum would generate lots more excitement.

I don't know how much it weighs...but i was hopeing around 3400lbs like u said...if it weighs 4400lbs then it's needs a bigger engine or make it lighter.