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    Pacesetter Headers??

    I know there are threads galore about this top on which are good long tube headers but of them really gave me ample information on the topic.

    I recently lost a bolt on my shorties on the PITA side ith the alternator and stuff. So since i have to take all that off anyways and I was thinking about long tubes... are these good headers or not. Some people have said stuff about leaking... I would imagine that would be an installers error more than the headers fault.

    How hard is the installation of long tube headers? I heard up to 2 days, which is fine, i dont do anything all day but go tothe gym and watch tv. Will i still pass emissions? I dont think they look real heard where im from, since my inspection took 4 minutes last time i got it done. Is the extra $119 worth it for the ceramic coating? I know you are going to say yes, but is it really necessary for my application? Need some feedback

    Pacesetters LT1
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    I hear awesome things about pacesetter. Fit and quality. You might get a bad set of headers, they probably don't test fit every pair, but I heard nothing but awesome things. Great value.

    I installed mids. Pretty simple job, not as hard as people made it sound. Long tubes are a diff. story I'm sure.

    Ceramic coating is not an option, it should be mandatory. Those headers get very hot. They're not thick cast iron like the stockers, they won't retain heat. If you don't coat them, you will fry your wires. I paid about 80 for my msd wires, I wasn't about to toast them. It's worth it's weight right there. Plus you can fry more under the hood, and I have heard of people catching their motor on fire. Get the coating. Mine were coated by paul berry motorsports. Keeps them cool, and even after the car is warmed up, the headers will be cool to the touch really quick. It's good stuff. GET IT
    97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

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    • #3
      btw, i don't know if i'd trust their coating, I never heard anything about it. PBM and jet hot have great reps. Might want to contact them... Jet hot is pretty steep though.
      97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

      01 Honda CBR600 F4i-Two bro's,Corbins,SS brake lines

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      • #4
        Originally posted by raroZ28
        btw, i don't know if i'd trust their coating, I never heard anything about it. PBM and jet hot have great reps. Might want to contact them... Jet hot is pretty steep though.

        well it was on the newera website. I was pumped by their no shipping offer and they are in the same city as me, so i want to jump on that. I would coat them but are they gunna get a lot hotter than the shorties? because i dont have problems with them

        Pacesetters with Ceramic

        Do long tubes get rid of the Cat?

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        • #5
          Well, it's up to you if you have a cat or not. I would just get the long tubes, and buy the ory they sell for 125. I would def. get the ceramic coating though... Don't get the heat tape either, or that header wrap gimmick. It's up to you in the end, I would just highly rec. it. Anybody wanna back me up?
          97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

          01 Honda CBR600 F4i-Two bro's,Corbins,SS brake lines

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          • #6
            I got clear image. I have seen headers that had tape on them. All rusted out. Get the coating, save yourself a headache. I vote ceramic coated. Mine are ceramachromed. I got the best of both worlds. Coated and chromed

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            • #7
              Dude, I cannot believe you are actually thinking about not getting em coated. Like raro said, it should be mandatory. I have the Pacesetter LongTubes and love em. No problems at all. I also purchased their ORY and the fit is damn near perfect, eliminated the cats tho. No Leaks!!!
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              • #8
                Jessica brought up a point I forgot to mention. If you don't get them coated, they WILL rust. And when they do, you'll be out a set of headers. Get them coated for 200 or so, reap all the above benefits. Or have a hot engine bay and replace headers every couple years. Choice is yours.
                97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

                01 Honda CBR600 F4i-Two bro's,Corbins,SS brake lines

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by RyanB58
                  Dude, I cannot believe you are actually thinking about not getting em coated. Like raro said, it should be mandatory. I have the Pacesetter LongTubes and love em. No problems at all. I also purchased their ORY and the fit is damn near perfect, eliminated the cats tho. No Leaks!!!

                  Does that y pipe go right from the headers to the stock placement of the pipe that runs down the passenger side/center of the car. Because I am going to order pacesetters and the y pipe sometime next week. Also, do you think there is room for cats to be welded into the y pipe?
                  1996 Z-28 6 speed, Airfoil, K&N FIPK, Flowmaster muffler, Motive 3.73 gears, BBK shorty headers, cut-out, LS1 Driveshaft, no power options (Rare), Prothane tranny mount, MSD 8.5mm wires, Accel U-Groove Plugs, Chrome hurst short throw, TB Bypass, ES Torque arm mount, BMR subframe connectors (weld-in), Lt4 Knock Module, Descreened MAF, '02 SS wheels, Pioneer HU, MTX & JL amps, 2 12" JBL's, T-Top Conversion!

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                  • #10
                    FYI i emailed jet hot a few weeks ago for a price and metioned this message forum and they said you get a discount for being a member-i dont remember what the price was though --they even mailed me a video about them and their products and i didnt even ask for it
                    Black '96 Z28, loudmouth exhaust, Mac mid length headers, crane cams powermax 104227 cam, crane 1.6rr,'s, springs, lifters and pushrods. MSD distributor, slp ultra z hood with air box, bbk 52mm throttle body, march underdrive pulleys, hpp+, 1le sway bars, spohn LCA's and relo brackets, Spohn SFC's, adj panhard bar, bilstein shocks, H&R springs, strut tower brace...Audio-Alpine head unit, MB Quart 6.5" component in the front and 6.5" Boston in the rear w Alpine 75x4 amp, Alpine Type-X 12 in the trunk w/ alpine 1000w amp

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by blackthunder50
                      Does that y pipe go right from the headers to the stock placement of the pipe that runs down the passenger side/center of the car. Because I am going to order pacesetters and the y pipe sometime next week. Also, do you think there is room for cats to be welded into the y pipe?

                      i dolnt think there is, i was looking, looks like its no cat unless you try to fabricate the y pipe a little and get one of those small slp cats

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fullthrottleZ
                        FYI i emailed jet hot a few weeks ago for a price and metioned this message forum and they said you get a discount for being a member-i dont remember what the price was though --they even mailed me a video about them and their products and i didnt even ask for it
                        do you remember the email address, i want to see how much, im sure its more expensive than the #$119 extra for the factory coating but i know jet hot is a lot better

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                        • #13
                          http://www.jet-hot.com/pages/getestimate.php


                          That should be it--just fill out the info and where it asks "where didyou hear of JET-HOT" put down this forum
                          Black '96 Z28, loudmouth exhaust, Mac mid length headers, crane cams powermax 104227 cam, crane 1.6rr,'s, springs, lifters and pushrods. MSD distributor, slp ultra z hood with air box, bbk 52mm throttle body, march underdrive pulleys, hpp+, 1le sway bars, spohn LCA's and relo brackets, Spohn SFC's, adj panhard bar, bilstein shocks, H&R springs, strut tower brace...Audio-Alpine head unit, MB Quart 6.5" component in the front and 6.5" Boston in the rear w Alpine 75x4 amp, Alpine Type-X 12 in the trunk w/ alpine 1000w amp

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                          • #14
                            so pacesetter headers are good? i was goign to go with thenm a while ago and everyone ranted and raved about them in a negative way?
                            1994 firebird formula

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by redbird94
                              so pacesetter headers are good? i was goign to go with thenm a while ago and everyone ranted and raved about them in a negative way?
                              ya exactly, thats why i reraised the question... mixed reviews

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