nfb:faster than theMcLaren F1

[bru333]

Wow! Just saw this car on "Top Gear" British car show. "Is this just another boring Swedish car?...NO!"

http://www.koenigsegg.com/thecars/index.asp?submenu=4

655bhp/550ftlb for the CC8S, 806bhp/678ftlb for the CCR!


Comparison chart results at Nardo/Prototipo for Production cars:

1. Koenigsegg CCR 388 km/h 241mph
2. McLaren F1 372 km/h 231mph
3. Ferrari Enzo 355 km/h 220mph
4. Porsche Carrera GT 334 km/h 207mph
4. McLaren Mercedes SLR 334 km/h 207mph
5. Lamborghini Murcielago 330 km/h 205mph

[hotwhip9]

Wow! I want one. I like how it looks opened up. Whats the price tag on that?

[bru333]

Whats the price tag on that?

http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102363

$600,000


Just a little bit more than I have....

[Craig 94 TA GT]

It looks like the CCR model uses over 20 pounds of boost, and has dual "blowers" if I read it right

[Nightrage]

Just wait until Bugatti comes out with their beast. If i remember correctly, it's supposed to travel the 0-60 in 2.9 seconds

[AmericanZ28]

This sure beats the lambo doors!

[ryan34]

It sure uses a lot of oil. Over 2 gallons? Would still buy it if i could, of course.

[Craig 94 TA GT]

I think a dry sump system usually needs a lot of oil.

The thing I would question the most is their lateral G force claims. It claims 1.3. I highly doubt that from a car with non-slick tires. If I recall correctly, the C5R was very similar, around 1.4. That uses HUGE slicks, and weighs a bit less. Those itty bity 255s on front and 335s on the rear will not come close to the grip of the C5R's slicks. So that makes me wonder how they did their testing

[ws6drbob]

I think a dry sump system usually needs a lot of oil.

The thing I would question the most is their lateral G force claims. It claims 1.3. I highly doubt that from a car with non-slick tires. If I recall correctly, the C5R was very similar, around 1.4. That uses HUGE slicks, and weighs a bit less. Those itty bity 255s on front and 335s on the rear will not come close to the grip of the C5R's slicks. So that makes me wonder how they did their testing

Ummm.... It only weighs 2600lbs....

**EDIT**

Hmmm the C5R only weighed 2500... I think your are on to summin Craig.

[bru333]

It's not all about the size of the tire, and the static weight of the car, lots of downforce at work here.

"Due to new airflow paths designed into the CCR bodywork, particularly behind the cockpit, sheer downforce—and a more pronounced Venturi effect provided fore and aft by new diffusers—means a rear wing is unnecessary."

[Craig 94 TA GT]

You're right, downforce has a lot to do with it, but don't forget about the C5R's downforce. I highly, highly doubt it can produce a number even close to the C5R, which is bred for road racing. Every race car driver, from Trans Am, or from NASCAR, has said the amount of downforce the C5R produces is tremendous. Way more than the 1600 lbs produced by a Cup car, and the much more by a Trans Am car. Also, if the lateral G's are tested as normal on a skidpad, downforce does not come much into play. They're speeds aren't that high, and are just running in a "small" circle. Popular Mechanics tested a 2002 Monte Carlo Cup car at 1.12 G's in the skidpad. However, in flat ovals, they can pull up to 2 Gs. So we can see how much downforce comes into play at high speeds here. That's why I'm wondering how they measured the lateral G's. Is it the maximum G's it can ever produce at a high speed? Or is it like most normal tests, on a skidpad testing the average amount of G's in both directions?