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  • Time For New Mods... A Few Questions.

    Okay... With the help of several people in here (namely Steve and 95T/A), I was assured my first mod (LoudMouth) was the right way to go, and was also able to do the install. As always, the info and help in here is incredible, which is why I am once again turning here for suggestions.

    Here's what I'm thinking - I don't want to spend a whole lot of money on the next mod. I'm leaning towards the SLP FlowPac ($275). Does anyone have this, and is it worth the money? It claims up to 25HP gains over factory. Am I better off just getting the SLP lid at around $85?

    Second mod I'm considering is suspension parts. Strut Tower Brace would be first on the list, but I'm wondering if it should be. Should I consider SFC's first? I should note that just about anything I buy will be the bolt-on model.

    Any other considerations I should look at? Any input, as always, is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
    SOLD: 2002 Trans Am WS.6 - Black on Black - 6 Speed
    SLP Loudmouth Exhaust
    17K Miles

    2005 Acura TL - Silver on Black
    Navigation - Surround Audio - Bluetooth

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    I believe 1sickbird was going to buy this for his WS6 as well, but not sure if he did or not. For everything you get, it doesn't seem like a bad deal.

    As for suspension, the SLP bolt-on SFCs are great. Took about a half-hour each to install and the difference was amazing. Your car goes from a bumbling beast to a solid beast on rails. Definitely a good mod

    However, if it were me, I'd start looking at the rear first. LCAs and relocation brackets will help your traction outta the hole a lot...plus I don't like the factory LCAs (if you buy a set and then compare them with the factory ones, you'll see why ). Those and a new panhard rod would be my choices, or the LCAs and SFCs since the both use the same hole (SFCs bolt in the rear to the front LCA mounts). Hope this helps
    Steve
    79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
    87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
    93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
    http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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    • #3
      D*mn you, Steve!!! Now you have me thinking LCA's!

      Seriously, thanks for the advice. I think I just may do the LCA's, SFC's, and panhard rod. When I get the SFC's, I'm definitely going with SLP. Do you recommend them for the other two as well? Also, how difficult is a panhard rod install? Thanks again, Steve.
      SOLD: 2002 Trans Am WS.6 - Black on Black - 6 Speed
      SLP Loudmouth Exhaust
      17K Miles

      2005 Acura TL - Silver on Black
      Navigation - Surround Audio - Bluetooth

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      • #4
        I'm with Steve.... The factory rear components are junk compared to the quality of the upgrades you can get. Strut tower is easy and not too much money but there are more issues in the rear to make it near the end of the suspension list of things to do. If you don't have a CAI get one and SLP makes great stuff so you can go wrong ...
        97 TA, M6, JBA ceramic coated headers, Borla Cat-back exhaust, 1.6 RR, 160 Thermo, LT4 knock sensor, CAI, Bils, Hotchkis all around, GT rotors, B&M shifter, Magnecor wires, Granatelli MAF
        In the shop LT4 Intake and heads.

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        • #5
          BMR LCA relo brackets are a cheap and effective mod if you're doing LCAs. They'll lower the angle slightly so you'll have better traction. The bolt-on version is easy to install, and I'd recommend it if you're changing the LCAs.
          94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 02 WS6
            D*mn you, Steve!!! Now you have me thinking LCA's!

            Seriously, thanks for the advice. I think I just may do the LCA's, SFC's, and panhard rod. When I get the SFC's, I'm definitely going with SLP. Do you recommend them for the other two as well? Also, how difficult is a panhard rod install? Thanks again, Steve.
            I am to please! lol

            SLP makes good stuff and you would have good LCAs and panhard if you go with them, but I went with Spohn LCAs and panhard rod. I haven't done the reloc. brackets yet, but Spohn does make a set of brackets (weld-on) which will be the ones I end up going with. If you want bolt-on brackets, BMR makes a set that Craig is running...he seems to be pretty happy with them (I'll see if I can get him to chime in...***EDIT*** He beat me to it lol). Either way you go, you'll be happy.

            My pick is Spohn though, mainly because of price and options. You can get them in mild steel or chrome-moly, poly bushings or rod ends or a combination thereof, adjustable or non-adjustable and in either red or black. I've got the black, non-adj. chrome-moly LCAs and panhard, poly bushings and have been real happy with them .

            Just for a quick price comparo on LMPerformance...

            SLP "Heavy Duty" LCAs...$179.96 vs. Sphon Chrome-moly non-adj. LCAs...$155
            SLP panhard rod...$89.96 vs. Spohn Chrome-moly non-adj. panhard rod...$125

            So, if you're really on a budget, you could get the SLP rod and Spohn LCAs. Hope this helps
            Steve
            79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
            87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
            93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
            http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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            • #7
              Thanks everyone. It definitely helps. I believe I remember Fred mentioning he runs Spohn, but I could be mistaken. Either way, that's what I'll go with. I was going to go with the SLP FlowPac as I mentioned earlier, but all the extra HP means nothing if the car doesn't hook-up correctly. I definitely don't want the chassis eating up unspent torque. As we all know... Torque is a terrible thing to waste.

              I'll give LMPerformance a call. They were great when I ordered the LM.

              Thanks again, evryone.
              SOLD: 2002 Trans Am WS.6 - Black on Black - 6 Speed
              SLP Loudmouth Exhaust
              17K Miles

              2005 Acura TL - Silver on Black
              Navigation - Surround Audio - Bluetooth

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              • #8
                Originally posted by 02 WS6
                Thanks everyone. It definitely helps. I believe I remember Fred mentioning he runs Spohn, but I could be mistaken. Either way, that's what I'll go with. I was going to go with the SLP FlowPac as I mentioned earlier, but all the extra HP means nothing if the car doesn't hook-up correctly. I definitely don't want the chassis eating up unspent torque. As we all know... Torque is a terrible thing to waste.

                I'll give LMPerformance a call. They were great when I ordered the LM.

                Thanks again, evryone.
                Anytime brotha . And yes, Fred runs Spohn as well...and, well, we all know what kinda power he throws down
                Steve
                79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
                87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
                93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
                http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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                • #9
                  take a look at Globalwest.net. I have their stuff on my roadracer and they look very solid. I have Hotchkis on my 97TA
                  97 TA, M6, JBA ceramic coated headers, Borla Cat-back exhaust, 1.6 RR, 160 Thermo, LT4 knock sensor, CAI, Bils, Hotchkis all around, GT rotors, B&M shifter, Magnecor wires, Granatelli MAF
                  In the shop LT4 Intake and heads.

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                  • #10
                    Hey,
                    I haven't been on in a couple days....had a golf outing yesterday thus the reason I haven't seen this until now.

                    Everything everyone said I would take into consideration. Some LCA's w/relocation brackets, SFC's, and a panhard rod are a good start for your suspension.

                    If you want to complete that full stable feeling around the car...get the shock tower brace as well. I guarantee you won't be dissatisfied with picking this...trust me For as much as it costs, it's one of the best mods for the money IMO.

                    Right now I have an edelbrock panhard rod, SLP SFC's, and a BMR STB. Kinda weird that it's all different companies, but I got them all by jumping on other people's sales...two of which from these here boards (thanks again guys ). LCA's w/relocation brackets are definitely next after I'm done replacing my opti, water pump, plugs, wires, belt, various hoses, etc... I'm actually thinking I will probably get the exact same one's steve has because he's my hero and I want to be just like him.

                    My personal suggestions....
                    LCA's....go spohn
                    SFC's....go SLP bolt on for convenience and easy install

                    STB and panhard rod...go based on your price range. You know what companies have better quality products than others.

                    Take my advice though on the STB....that was the very first suspension mod I ever did and noticed a night and day difference when I took my first twisty on ramp going on to a highway. That complimented with everything else I have has made my car so much fun to drive....can't wait to get them LCA's now.
                    black 95 t/a, a4, beefed up tranny w/ higher stall converter, transgo shift kit, trans temp gauge, trans cooler, richmond 3.73's, loudmouth, hypertech programmer, 160 thermo, descreened maf, TB bypass and airfoil, trick flow intake elbow, underdrive pulleys, moroso cai, edelbrock panhard rod, bmr stb, slp sfc's, fiberglass firehawk hood, hawk pads, taylor wires, ngk plugs, royal purple fluids,...and hopefully more to come

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Steve93Z
                      Anytime brotha . And yes, Fred runs Spohn as well...and, well, we all know what kinda power he throws down
                      Fred?.....Power?....nah...
                      black 95 t/a, a4, beefed up tranny w/ higher stall converter, transgo shift kit, trans temp gauge, trans cooler, richmond 3.73's, loudmouth, hypertech programmer, 160 thermo, descreened maf, TB bypass and airfoil, trick flow intake elbow, underdrive pulleys, moroso cai, edelbrock panhard rod, bmr stb, slp sfc's, fiberglass firehawk hood, hawk pads, taylor wires, ngk plugs, royal purple fluids,...and hopefully more to come

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                      • #12
                        Well I would disagree about SLP stuff.

                        I've always found much cheaper, equally well performing stuff from other vendors.

                        SLP is very proud of their stuff, and their Headers have the most clearance problems of any out there. I can't speak for their suspension stuff, as I have of it, nor do I know anyone with any of it. We all shyed away from it after the poor bang/buck performance of their exhaust setups.

                        The first mod anyone should do is SFC's. Stops those annoying rattles, and protects you when launchign at the track. You don't want to twist your subframes.

                        After that people can argue all day if it's better to hook, or better to have more power.

                        I went the unusual route on my car. Did mostly appearance stuff, then Rims/Tires, FIPK, Subframes, Free Mods, Catback, LS6 Intake, Long Tubes, STB, TC, Springs/Shocks, Drag Radials, Gears, Nitrous, Tranny. As you can see I'm up to finishing the suspension, then Heads, Cam, and either Stroker or Blower.
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                        2001 TA ~ 2000 TA ~ 95 TA - Sold ~ 87 FB - Buried in New Mexico ~ 86 FB - Sold

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 95TransAm
                          ...I'm actually thinking I will probably get the exact same one's steve has because he's my hero and I want to be just like him.
                          So, what, do I need to make a cape and mask for myself? lol

                          Originally posted by Ouija
                          Well I would disagree about SLP stuff.

                          I've always found much cheaper, equally well performing stuff from other vendors.

                          SLP is very proud of their stuff, and their Headers have the most clearance problems of any out there. I can't speak for their suspension stuff, as I have of it, nor do I know anyone with any of it. We all shyed away from it after the poor bang/buck performance of their exhaust setups.

                          The first mod anyone should do is SFC's. Stops those annoying rattles, and protects you when launchign at the track. You don't want to twist your subframes.

                          After that people can argue all day if it's better to hook, or better to have more power.

                          I went the unusual route on my car. Did mostly appearance stuff, then Rims/Tires, FIPK, Subframes, Free Mods, Catback, LS6 Intake, Long Tubes, STB, TC, Springs/Shocks, Drag Radials, Gears, Nitrous, Tranny. As you can see I'm up to finishing the suspension, then Heads, Cam, and either Stroker or Blower.
                          I've heard about the problems with LS1 SLP headers, but all the SLP stuff I have has been top notch. Granted they're not the cheapest, but I have yet to find anyone else offering bolt-on double-diamond-style SFCs. But, to each their own, right?
                          Steve
                          79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
                          87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
                          93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
                          http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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                          • #14
                            performance i go with slp
                            suspension i go with spohn
                            and they are helps alot and thanks to steve and all members.
                            2001 Trans Am WS6 M6
                            SLP: short throw|short shifter|CAI|MAF|TB ByPass
                            Spohn: SFC|Tunnel Brace|LCA|Swaybars|LCA bracket|Shock Tower Brace|Nitto NT555 Extreme Performance|Pacesetter LT|TrueDual|1-chamber Flowmaster|DLA224/224Cam|Comp Cams 918 Springs|ported oil pump|timing chain|PRC LS6 heads|LS7 lifters|Fast Intake 90mm|NW TB 90mm|Thermostat 160|NGK TR 55|RacetronicFP|429/404 hp/tq|tuned by George Haddad motorsports
                            http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/690385

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 1sickbird
                              performance i go with slp
                              suspension i go with spohn
                              and they are helps alot and thanks to steve and all members.
                              Anytime man, anytime

                              So, what's it gonna be 02 WS6? Did you order some new toys?
                              Steve
                              79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
                              87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
                              93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
                              http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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