By the way we are way off of this guy's post - lol.
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I think some guys are still convinced that long tube headers are not louder than the Loud Mouth.Originally posted by casey02ws6Step up to cam and long tubes - you'll never look back!!
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Wow Jay, taking a comment from many months ago out of context to try and help out a fellow board member? Man, how big of you. I wish I had you around to help me when I was building up the Z. It would have been so much easier with such knowledge like that. That was so insightful.Originally posted by Jay 02 TA ws6I think some guys are still convinced that long tube headers are not louder than the Loud Mouth.
Back to what was originally asked, I don't believe you can put a cut-out on a CA car at all. I believe they'll fail you on the visual inspection. As for long-tubes, its more than against CA emission laws, its against Federal emission laws since in just about every case they relocate the cat(s). Shorties are gonna be your only real option to stay legal.Steve
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A cam is a long way off for me. The car only has 17K on it, and I only put around 2 -3K a year on the clock. A cam would be nice, but I don't really want to tear into the engine for a few years. Long tubes, however, are in my semi-distant future plans. Suspension upgrades are first on the list.Originally posted by casey02ws6Step up to cam and long tubes - you'll never look back!! SOLD: 2002 Trans Am WS.6 - Black on Black - 6 Speed
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Since you have the Loud Mouth, I'd recommend that when you do the long-tubes, you keep catalytic converters as part of the system. If you don't, the LT headers + ORY + LM cat back combo is notorious for some wicked exhaust popping and terrible raspiness...Originally posted by 02 WS6
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I'm definitely keeping the cats, especially because of CT's emmission's laws. We're not quite California, but we're getting there.Originally posted by Jay 02 TA ws6Since you have the Loud Mouth, I'd recommend that when you do the long-tubes, you keep catalytic converters as part of the system. If you don't, the LT headers + ORY + LM cat back combo is notorious for some wicked exhaust popping and terrible raspiness...SOLD: 2002 Trans Am WS.6 - Black on Black - 6 Speed
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Yeah, I second Jay's comment. Even if my state didn't have emissions laws, I'd still choose to keep my cat just for the environment's sake. Anyways, some high flow cats perform just as well as if there weren't any cats at all.Originally posted by 02 WS6
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So what is the restictive part with flowmaster? its a 3-inch pipe, what part do i need to change, i can add in a pipe where my car is no prob. But what should i change to get more power, with a small budget?1995 LT1 bird
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Actually I've gone over the laws quite a bit, with many others. The way the laws are penned, at least here in Texas, and Texas can't violate Federal standards, you can legally relocate the CATS IF where they are moved to does not detriment their effectiveness.Originally posted by Steve93Z
I know Long Tubes are against California Emissions laws, but they aren't against Federal from allt he research I've done. California has stricter emissions laws than the Feds.
Many people have gone around about this, but that's the way it is written. That's just like some people say it's illegal to remove your EGR system. Whle you can't just rip it off and stay legal, you can remove it under the following conditions. If you went with a crate 2001 or 2002 LS1, which doesn't have EGR, you'd still be perfectly legal, as the newer engine has a slightly different cam profile making it have equal to or better emissions than the 1998-2000 LS1.
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