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  • #16
    If it's an auto, a shift kit is going to be the cheapest way to improve your sotp feel.
    If it's a 2.73 auto, then gears will be the best sotp gain.
    If it's a manual, then 4.11 gears will be the best sotp gain.

    Far as bang for the buck these are hard to beat.

    Originally posted by 96Camaro
    Ok, well so far I have an SLP cold air intake, along with a flowmaster catback system. What should my next upgrade be to make the car faster. Keep in mind I'm no millionare .

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    • #17
      hmm....well how much can I get gears done for. i was thinking that if i were to do gears it would be 3:73's. Good choice or not?
      96 Camaro Z28, T-tops, 6 Speed, Slp CIA, Flowmaster cat-back, 3:42 gears

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      • #18
        Originally posted by 96Camaro
        hmm....well how much can I get gears done for. i was thinking that if i were to do gears it would be 3:73's. Good choice or not?
        I would first suggest you create a signature with your car specs. Is it an automatic or a 6 speed. List the year, engine, tranny, rear end gears, and any mods.
        2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

        1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

        A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by 96Camaro
          hmm....well how much can I get gears done for. i was thinking that if i were to do gears it would be 3:73's. Good choice or not?
          Didn't you say that you didn't want gears because the reduction in mileage and you couldn't do them yourself?
          Originally posted by 96Camaro
          Considerd it. But the way gas is I dont think I want to mess with gears. Not to mention idk how to do the gears.

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          • #20
            LoL...well yea i did say that. But I think that I want to find out some more about the gears and whatnot. Like whats your top speed in all the gears, like right now my first gear goes up to about 35 mph for instance. How do you guys with the lt1 6 speed transmissions like the 3:73's? And how much more often do you guys have to shift.
            96 Camaro Z28, T-tops, 6 Speed, Slp CIA, Flowmaster cat-back, 3:42 gears

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            • #21
              Originally posted by 96Camaro
              LoL...well yea i did say that. But I think that I want to find out some more about the gears and whatnot. Like whats your top speed in all the gears, like right now my first gear goes up to about 35 mph for instance. How do you guys with the lt1 6 speed transmissions like the 3:73's? And how much more often do you guys have to shift.

              If you have a 6 speed, which I'm not certain of because you haven't told us yet, but if you do you already have 3.42 gears stock. Going to 3.73's wouldn't be a big jump. Most guys go to a 4.10 with a 6 speed, and many have found they actually get better gas mileage with this combination because 6th gear becomes more useable.

              If, however, you have an auto, you either have 2.73 or 3.23 gears stock and most recommend 3.73 for an upgrade. But you WILL see a decrease in mileage with these.

              As for what to do next, I would recommend the gears (which you can purchase and have installed for around/under $500, or a good header/y-pipe combination. You'll be hard pressed to find some headers and a y-pipe under $500, especially if you go with a coated header. Installing headers in an LT1 engine bay is not fun, but can be done if you know your way around an engine. Your other main option for you to consider is some 1.6 roller rockers, which can be had for about $200 and are installed relatively easily. They have the effect of a mild cam upgrade. You could also go with a cam/rocker combination, although installing a cam gets more complex.

              You could also do quite a lot to the suspension for $500, although I know you said you'd like straight line performance. Suspension is important though to get that power to the ground, and some pieces I'd recommend upgrading would be lower control arms, subframe connectors, panhard rod, strut tower brace, and bushings to polyeurethane. You could get all of those peices for about $500 if you know where to look and are willing to go after some used pieces, and installing them is a relatively simple feat.
              Dave M
              Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it!


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              • #22
                How much horsepower gain can you expect from just the rockers? And will they fit under the stock valve covers? And what kinda gains in the quarter mile are normal for just adding rockers.
                96 Camaro Z28, T-tops, 6 Speed, Slp CIA, Flowmaster cat-back, 3:42 gears

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by 96Camaro
                  How much horsepower gain can you expect from just the rockers? And will they fit under the stock valve covers? And what kinda gains in the quarter mile are normal for just adding rockers.
                  I'm going to repeat what I said earlier. Until you do this, no one can do anything but speculate on what you have.
                  I would first suggest you create a signature with your car specs. Is it an automatic or a 6 speed. List the year, engine, tranny, rear end gears, and any mods.
                  2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

                  1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

                  A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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                  • #24
                    Ok, now I think I should have a sig.
                    96 Camaro Z28, T-tops, 6 Speed, Slp CIA, Flowmaster cat-back, 3:42 gears

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                    • #25
                      with bigger gears Yea you would probbley have to shift more, but skip shifting would help. If you go to big you may run out of gear in the 1/4 mybe.
                      For the rocker gains i have no clue. The bigest upgrade i think would be some real nice rear tires to realy help get off the line since its a 6 speed.
                      2000 trans am auto, Afr 205,tr 220/220 112, mti lid, 160t,umi sfc,hooker headers and ory y,loud mouth. bellow,pr's,harland rockers,new lifters,ls6 oilpump,rollermaster doubler roller, msd wires.

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                      • #26
                        For rocker gains, I've seen graphs of 7 RWHP/ 2 RWTQ, but heard potential gains of up to 18 RWHP.

                        This may not help, but with my wounded car, headers + high flow cat + 1.6 RRs + pcmforless tune got me 16 RWHP and -0.2 RWTQ If I ever get it running right, I'll post the actual results.
                        94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by joe ws6
                          with bigger gears Yea you would probbley have to shift more, but skip shifting would help. If you go to big you may run out of gear in the 1/4 mybe.
                          For the rocker gains i have no clue. The bigest upgrade i think would be some real nice rear tires to realy help get off the line since its a 6 speed.
                          You won't run out of gear in the quarter unless you go with some grossly huge gear ratio. With 4.10's most guys are shifting into fourth gear just before the line.
                          Dave M
                          Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it!


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                          • #28
                            Well when I ran my car, I was at the very top of 3rd. And it was kinda iffy if I should have shifted to 4th. But I dont think I want to go out full blown 4:11's. I guess I just kind of want to see what its like first with new gears but I dont know anybody personaly with an lt1 even around here.
                            96 Camaro Z28, T-tops, 6 Speed, Slp CIA, Flowmaster cat-back, 3:42 gears

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                            • #29
                              Yea i wasnt sure about the gears in that car, im usualy in 4th already nearing high rpm. My bad for bad info.I hear alot of hooker being good but mybe costing big bucks! I hear alot of complaining about slp. though i have nothing to back these up with. Puting a header on, well lets just say it isnt going to be fun. I would try to make shure their coated.
                              2000 trans am auto, Afr 205,tr 220/220 112, mti lid, 160t,umi sfc,hooker headers and ory y,loud mouth. bellow,pr's,harland rockers,new lifters,ls6 oilpump,rollermaster doubler roller, msd wires.

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