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  • tune up help

    yup im back... i got caught up in the turbo scene but im back now. im sorry gentlemen, i learned my lesson. drove the bird today, i had forgotten what it was like to drive a real car.

    but i need a tune up before i park the ride...

    i believe i need-

    new plugs, but what kind? perferrably budget oriented

    wires, are duralast any good?

    pcv valve

    and the ovious filter changes and such

    anything else cheap that i could do to get this puppy running strong again?
    1995 LT1 bird
    10" 2800 stall coan converter,beefed tranny, supreme shift,motive 373 gears,3 inch catback with a flowmaster muffler, pcmforless tuned,slp cold air intake,tb bypassed, better flowing intake elbow, air foil,poly trans mount.
    275/40/17 Nitto NT555R extreme drags in rear

    2005 Dode SRT-4
    agp billet adjustable wastegate,Maxxfab 3 inch catless downpipe, borla catback ,K&N drop in filter,mapclamped,tuned,mopar blow off valve, Prothane motor mount inserts,21 pounds of boost!
    6 dics cd changer, 10 inch MTX fully loaded with moonroof and viper style seats

  • #2
    Originally posted by DetroitLT1

    but i need a tune up before i park the ride...



    anything else cheap that i could do to get this puppy running strong again?
    A/C Delco Plugs and wires. Get them from a discount vendor like Jason Cromer at Sam Taylor Buick. Also change the fuel filter, air filter, clean the Throttle body with TB cleaner.

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    • #3
      thank you very much joe i appreciate the info.
      1995 LT1 bird
      10" 2800 stall coan converter,beefed tranny, supreme shift,motive 373 gears,3 inch catback with a flowmaster muffler, pcmforless tuned,slp cold air intake,tb bypassed, better flowing intake elbow, air foil,poly trans mount.
      275/40/17 Nitto NT555R extreme drags in rear

      2005 Dode SRT-4
      agp billet adjustable wastegate,Maxxfab 3 inch catless downpipe, borla catback ,K&N drop in filter,mapclamped,tuned,mopar blow off valve, Prothane motor mount inserts,21 pounds of boost!
      6 dics cd changer, 10 inch MTX fully loaded with moonroof and viper style seats

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      • #4
        The Delco wires are a good choice, but I wouldn't use Delco plugs they are crap. Use a standard copper NGK TR55. They are stock# 3951, that's what the parts stores go by. Less than $2 each.

        The air filter, PCV valve, and fuel filter would also be a good idea.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by fastTa
          I wouldn't use Delco plugs they are crap. .
          Mine as well as many other people's stock AC Delco plugs lasted 100K miles. I don't think that you could classify those as crap.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Joe 1320
            Mine as well as many other people's stock AC Delco plugs lasted 100K miles. I don't think that you could classify those as crap.
            There is thread after thread after thread of the ground electrode and/or center electrode falling off the plug. I tried two sets of the platinum Delco's and both sets had a quite a few of the same problems.

            Most mechanincs and/or shops that I talk to won't even touch a Delco plug for it's known history.

            That equals crap.

            NGK is a far superior plug hands down.

            EDIT: BTW, a plug should never be left in a motor for 100k. It doesn't matter if it's a platinum plug that's advertised to go 100k or not. There isn't a plug out there that lasts 100k. The plugs may still be providing just enough spark to provide combusition, but I can guarantee you that after 50k, a platinum plug is starting to lose it's efficiency very quickly. At 100k the efficiency of the plug as highly likely very poor.

            Platinum plugs should be used no longer than 50k, and copper plugs no longer than 25k.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fastTa
              There is thread after thread after thread of the ground electrode and/or center electrode falling off the plug. I tried two sets of the platinum Delco's and both sets had a quite a few of the same problems.

              Most mechanincs and/or shops that I talk to won't even touch a Delco plug for it's known history.

              That equals crap.

              NGK is a far superior plug hands down.

              EDIT: BTW, a plug should never be left in a motor for 100k. It doesn't matter if it's a platinum plug that's advertised to go 100k or not. There isn't a plug out there that lasts 100k. The plugs may still be providing just enough spark to provide combusition, but I can guarantee you that after 50k, a platinum plug is starting to lose it's efficiency very quickly. At 100k the efficiency of the plug as highly likely very poor.

              Platinum plugs should be used no longer than 50k, and copper plugs no longer than 25k.
              Then I suppose the factory has no idea what they are talking about. They install those plugs specifically to last 100K miles due to the PITA proceedure to change them, not to mention the 100k mile emissions warranty. Mine actually lasted 108K. I'll stick with my stock crap plugs if they perform like this any day.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Joe 1320
                Then I suppose the factory has no idea what they are talking about. They install those plugs specifically to last 100K miles due to the PITA proceedure to change them, not to mention the 100k mile emissions warranty. Mine actually lasted 108K. I'll stick with my stock crap plugs if they perform like this any day.
                GM claimed the Dex-Cool was good enough to last 150,000 miles. Horsesh!t.

                GM claimed the ATF in 4L60E equipped cars was good for 100,000 miles. Again, horsesh!t. If people with A4's aren't at least changing their ATF every 30k-35k, then the life of their automatic transmission is being compromised.

                GM claimed the factory Optispark was good for 100k. LOL, we all know the reality behind that one.

                The list goes on and on.

                There are lots of things that GM, Ford, and Dodge "claim" to last for 100k plus miles. But, what you need to understand Joe, is that the factory recommended service intervals are always the extreme upper end of a perfect scale. It is a marketing tool nothing more.

                After 20+ years of building motors and race cars, I've learned a "few" things. One being that platinum plugs should be used no longer than 50k and copper plugs no more than 25k. If they are used past that interval, you can rest assured that your fuel economy, performance, and emissions will be compromised. It's common knowledge.

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                • #9
                  Well...........Kevin, my opti lasted almost 100K miles, the wires and plugs lasted 108K miles. All I'm saying is that the performance of those parts works as described. I'll use them again any day. I don't give a crap about other mechanics, I have lots of personal experience.... not what others say. As a matter of fact I've heard fewer complaints about stock Delco plugs, wires and opti than other brands. People are free to use as they wish and that was the choice I made and am very satisfied with the results. I understand perfectly. We're not talking about fluid maintainance, we're talking about the tune up. remember?
                  Kevin, you seem a little young to have been building engines and race cars for 20+ years. Did you start when you were 10? I could easily say I've been doing it for 30 years and it's pointless. I swear Kevin, some of your debates would be likened to shaving with a cheeze grater.

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