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    hood question

    Ok, is it possible to get a ram air intake from a LT1 car, and still use the stock hood? Also could someone cut the fake "vents" out of the hood and use that as a "ram air", or would the water get in too easily? Thanks guys.

    edit: by ram air i just mean a place for cold air to enter, i just didn't really now how to say it
    2006 Saturn Ion Redline
    2003 Mits. Eclipse Spyder
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  • #2
    Why not stick with the stock hood and get a cold air intake that draws air in from underneath?

    The amount of modifications that would be necessary to convert a non-Ram Air hood into a functional intake would be ridiculous.
    Al 96 Ram Air T/A
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    • #3
      Well i already have a CAI, and it draws from underneath the car. I just think the ram air intake looks 10 times better, plus it would be different.
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      • #4
        Umm, I could be wrong here, but you will go through more work than just buying an aftermarket ram air hood rather that cutting out the stock vents. Also, you will not have the "ram air" effect, either. Personally, I just don't think it will work. And a ram air box is going to require you to have the ram air hood for clearance. The stock LT1 hood won't cut it. But correct me if I'm wrong here, fellas!
        1996 White T/A, LT-1 auto with only aftermarket Flowmasters, shift kit, and a LG Motorsports G2 cold air kit.....that's it! She can't eat all the 'Stangs but will die trying.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 'STANGETR
          And a ram air box is going to require you to have the ram air hood for clearance. The stock LT1 hood won't cut it. But correct me if I'm wrong here, fellas!
          Thats what i thought too, i just wasn't sure.
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          • #6
            You can try to find a used ram air hood and get the ram air intake setup. That's what I did. Looks 100% better and runs / breathes much better too.

            Try the different forums and ebay and if your patient enough you can find the parts used for a good price.
            97 Trans Am A4 more or less stock (Mods: WS6 Ram Air with Fernco & K&N, 12 disc CD changer, power antenna, SLP Fan Switch, LS1 Aluminum DS, Borla Cat back, McCord power plate, Spohn tower brace, Sirius, HID fog lights)


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            • #7
              Having had the stock hood/intake, CAI with stock hood, and Ram Air hood with airbox, it would seem almost impossible to make the Ram Air airbox work with a stock hood. I cant see how it would fit under the hood.

              But lets say you could figure a way to get it to fit under the hood, now you have the inside of the hood pressing down on the opening to the air filter. Removing the stock hood false scoops would only provide a partial opening to the air filter, since the stock false scoops are offest a couple inches farther to the sides than the "nostrils" on the Ram Air hood. Now you need to find a way to fit ducting and water elimination baffles into the very limited space between the air box and the inside of the hood. I still have my stock hood in the garage, and went out and compared the stock hood to the Ram Air hood dimensions.

              A more likely solution would be using the 98+ LS1 airbox plus an aftermarket high flow "lid". I've seen a couple of photos showing people using them on the 93-97 LT1 cars. The one most descriptive site indicated that it took a lot of hacking, the LS1 airbox was falling apart, and he wouldn't do it again. But it can be done. The advantage of the LS1 airbox is the fact that it is a "bottom feeder", and you can open up the bottom of the box, and duct air up in front of the radiator with kits that are available.

              I'll see if I can find the link to the LS1 install site.
              Fred

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Injuneer
                Having had the stock hood/intake, CAI with stock hood, and Ram Air hood with airbox, it would seem almost impossible to make the Ram Air airbox work with a stock hood. I cant see how it would fit under the hood.

                But lets say you could figure a way to get it to fit under the hood, now you have the inside of the hood pressing down on the opening to the air filter. Removing the stock hood false scoops would only provide a partial opening to the air filter, since the stock false scoops are offest a couple inches farther to the sides than the "nostrils" on the Ram Air hood. Now you need to find a way to fit ducting and water elimination baffles into the very limited space between the air box and the inside of the hood. I still have my stock hood in the garage, and went out and compared the stock hood to the Ram Air hood dimensions.

                A more likely solution would be using the 98+ LS1 airbox plus an aftermarket high flow "lid". I've seen a couple of photos showing people using them on the 93-97 LT1 cars. The one most descriptive site indicated that it took a lot of hacking, the LS1 airbox was falling apart, and he wouldn't do it again. But it can be done. The advantage of the LS1 airbox is the fact that it is a "bottom feeder", and you can open up the bottom of the box, and duct air up in front of the radiator with kits that are available.

                I'll see if I can find the link to the LS1 install site.
                Thanks fred, but you don't have to post the site..i've seen pics of the ls1 intake. I wasn't too fond of trying to hack up the radiator support or any of that. (which is why i wanted to go with the LT1 set up) But since the intake won't fit under my hood, i prolly won't be doing anything. I'll just keep my current set up. untill i finally get a ram air hood Thanks guys
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                2003 Mits. Eclipse Spyder

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