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  • can someone explain the difference ..

    between a roller camshaft and a hydrollic camshaft?
    what type does LT1 fall under?

    eddie
    1995 Z28 A4, SCC Ultra Z Hood with Air box/K&N filter, Granatelli Maf Sensor/Fernco bellow/Hotchkis STB/white face gauges/LT4 Knock module/March pullies/160* stat without Hypertech Tunning/Borla 3" y-pipe/HI Flo 3" cat/SLP Loudmouth/GM Motive 3.73's + TA rear end girdle/Afs ZR1's silver painted with polished lip 17x9.5 front & 17x11 out back/98 tail light's/BMR SFC's/spohn Lca's/spohn relo brackets & spohn adj. panhard rod " coated mid lenght pacesetters headers + 1.6rr + custom pc tuning going on soon hopefully "

  • #2
    Originally posted by LoudLT1
    between a roller camshaft and a hydrolic camfast?
    what type does LT1 fall under?

    eddie
    If im not mistaken You have Hydrolic Roller cam. The difference is that where the pushrod connects to the lifter. The hydrolic ones have a spring that allow for a little travel for the pushrod to go into the lifter. The Roller ones are Solid I believe.
    Eddie
    2000 M6 Trans Am
    Tune+exhaust=344WHP

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    • #3
      There are two kinds of valve "lifters"..... solid, and hydraulic. (forget about "roller" for now). The "solid" lifter is a simple cylinder of metal, that sits on the cam lobe, and accepts the bottom of the pushrod at the top of the lifter. That type of lifter produces a valve train that requires "slack"..... a space in the system so that the components of the valve train are not always in contact with each other. The slack ends up being the clearance between the tip of the rocker arm and the top of the valve stem. That clearance is set to a specifiec gap (in the range of 0.012-0.018") using a feeler gauge while adjusting the rocker fulcrum.

      A hydraulic lifter adds a small hydraulic cylinder to the valve lifter, immediately under the bottom of the pushrod. That hydraulic cylinder uses oil pressure to expand the lifter, and hold the valve train components in constant contact, eliminating the "clearance". This eliminates the need to set the valve train clearance periodically, and eliminates a lot of mechanical noise associated with the clearance periodically being taken up as the pushrod rises. The hydraulic lifter still needs an initial adjustment to put it into the correct operating range.

      Your LT1 has hydraulic lifters.

      So far, we haven't mentioned the "roller". That's a separate topic. A lifter can either use a hardened flat surface to ride on the cam lobe, or it can be fitted with a small roller that rides on the cam lobe, eliminating a lot of friction. You can use a flat surface or a roller with either a solid lifter or a hydraulic lifter. Your LT1 has a "roller" on the bottom of a hydraulic lifter.

      I don't tnink anyone uses a "flat" lifter any more.... the rollers have gotten a lot more reliable than they once were. Few production cars use solid lifters, because of the noise and high maintenance. The trend toward buiulding an engine that can be "sealed" for 100,000 miles rules out solid lifters. The advantage of using a solid lifter is the ability to run the engine at higher RPM. A hydraulic lifter will eventually not have enough time at high RPM to release the hydraulic pressure as required and will "pump up" holding the valve open. Additionally, solid lifters are often used with very high lift camshafts, because these cams require beefy valve springs with high spring constants, and the pressure of the spring can be high enough to "collapse" the hydraulic system in the lifter.

      My stroker uses a solid roller camshaft. It allows the engine to operate at 7,000+ RPM. But, the related mechanical noise pretty much rules out the use of the knock sensor.
      Fred

      381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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      • #4
        Thats exactly what i meant.
        Eddie
        2000 M6 Trans Am
        Tune+exhaust=344WHP

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        • #5
          Great explination guys. I have always wondered what the difference was.
          No F-Body right now

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          • #6
            And that roller lifters will allow a slightly more aggressive cam to have the idle characteristics of a more mild cam.

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            • #7
              thanks injuneer,
              great info
              thanks again,
              eddie
              1995 Z28 A4, SCC Ultra Z Hood with Air box/K&N filter, Granatelli Maf Sensor/Fernco bellow/Hotchkis STB/white face gauges/LT4 Knock module/March pullies/160* stat without Hypertech Tunning/Borla 3" y-pipe/HI Flo 3" cat/SLP Loudmouth/GM Motive 3.73's + TA rear end girdle/Afs ZR1's silver painted with polished lip 17x9.5 front & 17x11 out back/98 tail light's/BMR SFC's/spohn Lca's/spohn relo brackets & spohn adj. panhard rod " coated mid lenght pacesetters headers + 1.6rr + custom pc tuning going on soon hopefully "

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