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    I think my MAP is toast.

    Its giving me a 96 kPa read-out, key on engine off throttle open with a 29.89" outside(from the high school 2 miles away).

    96.47kPa=13.99 PSI=28.49" HG

    The BAR reading of the MAP is off by more than 1 inch of mercury, enough to goof the timing a little, etc.

    Thoughts?
    -Alex
    1995 LT1 ECU (GREAT for flashing!)
    ZO6 wheels (clones)
    LED exterior and interior lighting
    With questionable guts:
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    free flowing 3 1/2" exhaust w/
    pacesetter longtubes
    T56 with a 6 puck ceramic copper heavy duty clutch
    Built T56, 3.5" 4130 driveshaft w/spicer HD's
    K&N RAM air from 96 ws6
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    full emissions delete
    polished heads with oversize valve job
    Edelbrock IAS shocks
    Full tubular Chassis minus k member
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    Motor is not what you'd think.

  • #2
    I was getting kind of weird readings with my MAP recently, but nothing like yours. At idle, your suppose to get somewhere around 9.4"Hg. If its a constant wrong reading, I would think that the sensor is bad. If it was more intermittent, I would look towards the wiring. How do the connections look on the sensor itself? How does the wiring harness plug look? Is it corroded?

    Sorry I can't help that much buddy, but I figured I might as well try since I had a similar problem.
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    • #3
      Where do you live? How far above sea level? these are important to ask yourself about this sensors data... I get a value of about 15-17 kPa, but i have a bigger cam than stock (and possibly a bad sensor). With a barometer of 30, you should see between 9-10 kPa on a mostly stock LT1. Yours is probably fine. you need to check it like I did, engine off, key on, see what the barometer is outside, record your sensor data and see how accurate it is. as long as your Idle MAP is less than or equal to 1/3 of the BAR, you shouldn't have a problem.
      MY problem would be different, I can't relate my sensor output to the actual conditions of the atmosphere like it should.
      -Alex
      1995 LT1 ECU (GREAT for flashing!)
      ZO6 wheels (clones)
      LED exterior and interior lighting
      With questionable guts:
      Forged bottom end
      free flowing 3 1/2" exhaust w/
      pacesetter longtubes
      T56 with a 6 puck ceramic copper heavy duty clutch
      Built T56, 3.5" 4130 driveshaft w/spicer HD's
      K&N RAM air from 96 ws6
      96? ws6 hood
      96? ws6 spoiler
      full emissions delete
      polished heads with oversize valve job
      Edelbrock IAS shocks
      Full tubular Chassis minus k member
      Daily Driver and love it that way
      Motor is not what you'd think.

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      • #4
        To add more to it,
        the pigtail to the plug is broke ant the lock, but ive got a good connection at the terminals.
        -Alex
        1995 LT1 ECU (GREAT for flashing!)
        ZO6 wheels (clones)
        LED exterior and interior lighting
        With questionable guts:
        Forged bottom end
        free flowing 3 1/2" exhaust w/
        pacesetter longtubes
        T56 with a 6 puck ceramic copper heavy duty clutch
        Built T56, 3.5" 4130 driveshaft w/spicer HD's
        K&N RAM air from 96 ws6
        96? ws6 hood
        96? ws6 spoiler
        full emissions delete
        polished heads with oversize valve job
        Edelbrock IAS shocks
        Full tubular Chassis minus k member
        Daily Driver and love it that way
        Motor is not what you'd think.

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        • #5
          At sea level, a stock LT1 will see 9.5-10.0"Hg at idle. That's about 20-20.5"Hg vacuum. You should be seeing something in the range of 30-35 kPa at idle. 17 kPa at idle will set the code for low voltage on the MAP (irrationally high vacuum). An LT4 HOT cam might produce closer to 50 kPa at idle.

          The MAP sensor harness connector is well know for crumbling with age and making poor contact. Check for a full 5.0V reference at the connector as well.
          Fred

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          • #6
            Thanks I'll check it out.
            -Alex
            1995 LT1 ECU (GREAT for flashing!)
            ZO6 wheels (clones)
            LED exterior and interior lighting
            With questionable guts:
            Forged bottom end
            free flowing 3 1/2" exhaust w/
            pacesetter longtubes
            T56 with a 6 puck ceramic copper heavy duty clutch
            Built T56, 3.5" 4130 driveshaft w/spicer HD's
            K&N RAM air from 96 ws6
            96? ws6 hood
            96? ws6 spoiler
            full emissions delete
            polished heads with oversize valve job
            Edelbrock IAS shocks
            Full tubular Chassis minus k member
            Daily Driver and love it that way
            Motor is not what you'd think.

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            • #7
              checked everything and the connection is good, although I did break the clip lock some time ago, it plugs up solid and stays where it should.

              Still getting the same off reading, anywhere from 1-1.5 inches of mercury off the actual pressure outside. on a 30.03" day it doesn't even hit 100 kilo pascals.... I'm pretty sure its the sensor, when they get old the little sealed vacuum or pressure constant chamber breaks open or leaks a little, rendering the MAP useless and inaccurate.
              -Alex
              1995 LT1 ECU (GREAT for flashing!)
              ZO6 wheels (clones)
              LED exterior and interior lighting
              With questionable guts:
              Forged bottom end
              free flowing 3 1/2" exhaust w/
              pacesetter longtubes
              T56 with a 6 puck ceramic copper heavy duty clutch
              Built T56, 3.5" 4130 driveshaft w/spicer HD's
              K&N RAM air from 96 ws6
              96? ws6 hood
              96? ws6 spoiler
              full emissions delete
              polished heads with oversize valve job
              Edelbrock IAS shocks
              Full tubular Chassis minus k member
              Daily Driver and love it that way
              Motor is not what you'd think.

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