I can feel and hear a bang almost like a broken transmision mount when the car is downshifting. I m not sure what it is, could it be something wrong with the gearbox, or just the lower a arm bushings worn (from accelerating and braking hard often). Anyone else had this issue? it is most noticeable when letting off the accelerator and letting it downshift.
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95 a4 trans am, a bang when downshifting
93 t/a A4 3.23s
95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8Tags: None
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sorry I should have mentioned I got tired of breaking transmission mounts and installed a polyurethane one. I checked it and it isnt broken, but I still have to check if the bolts are ok once I get it on a lifter. What else should I check? play in the driveshaft u joints? engine mounts? I have the poly engine mounts that came in the kit with the transmission mount, should I replace those too?93 t/a A4 3.23s
95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8
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I have checked the mount and crossmember and all related bolts and seems ok, the mount is an energy suspension poly mount, about 3000 miles on it and it has a slight crack on the driver side. its not torn, just looks like thats where it will lol. Rear lca s and relocation brackets are ok.
Torque arm bolts are ok, the mount is the stock one but looks ok, same with the enine mounts. I ll replace the engine mounts with the poly ones as I have noticed the engine moves a bit when I rev it up.
Also the a arm rear bushing on the drivers side looks shot, the rubber has come off the metal, the same bushing on the other side seems broken too. Can a worn rear bushing on the lower suspension arm cause this thump?
It it noticeable mostly when downshifting and coasting. Its weird as everything seems ok, transmisson shifts ok.93 t/a A4 3.23s
95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8
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Originally posted by Trans AmI have checked the mount and crossmember and all related bolts and seems ok, the mount is an energy suspension poly mount, about 3000 miles on it and it has a slight crack on the driver side. its not torn, just looks like thats where it will lol. Rear lca s and relocation brackets are ok.
Torque arm bolts are ok, the mount is the stock one but looks ok, same with the enine mounts. I ll replace the engine mounts with the poly ones as I have noticed the engine moves a bit when I rev it up.
Also the a arm rear bushing on the drivers side looks shot, the rubber has come off the metal, the same bushing on the other side seems broken too. Can a worn rear bushing on the lower suspension arm cause this thump?
It it noticeable mostly when downshifting and coasting. Its weird as everything seems ok, transmisson shifts ok.
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I have replaced the transmission mount, it had cracks on both sides I think only cosmetic cause it didnt seem broken (energy suspension) and installed a new prothane one. only difference is I can feel the thump harder when it downshifts.
I also replaced one of the front lower a-arms as the rear bushing was broken, rubber came off the metal.
I added a liter of transmission fluid and that seemed to improve the downshifts but very little so I am not sure it made a difference. Is it possible it is slipping only on downshifts? A while ago I did a few time manual downshifts but was careful not to over rev the engine, I think it only went up to like 3000 3500 rpm, not sure if that can cause this.
I have checked all the suspension bolts and mounts and noticed the k member bolts on the drivers side were loose so I tightened them up. do the rear lca bolts have to be super tight?93 t/a A4 3.23s
95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8
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The Energy Supsension trans mount has the upper and lower metal parts overlapped inside the polyurethane, so if the polyurethane tears, the trans is limited in how much it can move up and down. As a result, when they break, the break may be hard to find, and the trans won't lift much if you jack it to check the mount.
Hard to believe the ES mount broke. Mine is 14 years old, and has been under three different tranny setups (original T56, swapped TH400 and TH400+Gear Vendor O/D) and its never been a problem. That includes 6K clutch dumps with a McLeod Street Twin on sticky slicks, and transmitting 800HP and 800 lb-ft on nitrous.Fred
381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor
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Thanks!
seems like I overlooked checking the transmissin fluid level properly.
I m still testing , so far it seems to shift fine.
But I finally got round to change that front lower a-arm with the broken bushing and checked the subframe bolts . the only two bolts that I havent tightened myself when I did the drivetrain swap were loose
I have been looking for dexron 3 for a few days seems like they dont make it anymore and I didnt want to mix the old dexron 3 with new dexron 6 . I eventually found castrol atf import multi vehicle and it meets dexron 3 specificantions, probably has more additives than just regular dexron 3 but I thought it cant hurt the transmission. It also seems to have better viscosity at higher temperatures and viscosity index than dexron 3. nut sure thats good or bad. It was the ony type of atf that I could find that is close to the original dexron 3.
http://www.castrol.com/castrol/secti...tentId=7028224
What transmission fluid would you use ? I am going to change the filter and maybe flush the old fluid out. is this type of castrol atf ok to use? is it ok to mix with old dexron 3 if I only drop the pan and change the filter without a flush?
I have noticed all the transmission pan bolts were loose also the oil pan bolts on both the t/a and the 97 camaro! I guess the gaskets get soaked with oil over time and that makes them softer.
Also I need to get an alignment now because I have replaced the a-arm. The car has hotkis lowering springs and kyb adjustable shocks and lca relocation brackets. Do I keep the factory alignment specs?
The energy suspension mount seems to be a better design as it has a different shape than the oem one, and the overlapped metal parts inside. I am going to check it and reinstall it if its ok, i prefer it over the new one, its a little softer now than a new one.93 t/a A4 3.23s
95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8
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Originally posted by Trans Am
seems like I overlooked checking the transmissin fluid level properly.
I m still testing , so far it seems to shift fine.
Its te same as before, upshifts are fine, but downshifts especially 2-1 are harsh. it sorts itself out after driving for a while, I think when the fluid gets hot. it was really hot when I cheched the level after driving around town for 20 minutes or so, the dipstick was very hot too.
harsh downshifts when cold and ok after it warms up.
when I press performance button it shifts way up in the rpms, over the yellow almost hitting the limiter.93 t/a A4 3.23s
95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8
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Good luck finding your issue- just jumped in to point out that my Z28 shifts pretty hard, both upshifts and downshifts. Almost feels like there was a shift kit installed, if you know what I mean. I read that the Firebirds came with a switch that affected the shifting, having a 'sport' mode and normal mode, where the Camaro was always in 'sport' mode.
I got tired of the shifter moving around under load transitions, on throttle/off throttle, and put a UMI torque arm that is "frame" mounted under there. I don't think it made good sense to put those torque loads on the transmission tail. Still clunks and shifts hard, though. I just figure it is the nature of the beast- not expecting luxury car shifts from a light, powerful car with a firm-shifting transmission.2001 Z28 A4 - 160 deg t-stat, 3.42 gears, WS6 sway bars, rear springs and shocks, UMI SFC's, Torque Arm and STB, leather Firebird seats, Borla, SLP Y-pipe and lid, ZO6 cam and springs - 332 RWHP and 346 RWTQ, not bad for 'almost stock' - work in progress
"Black, the fastest color"
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Originally posted by Trans AmI can feel and hear a bang almost like a broken transmision mount when the car is downshifting. I m not sure what it is, could it be something wrong with the gearbox, or just the lower a arm bushings worn (from accelerating and braking hard often). Anyone else had this issue? it is most noticeable when letting off the accelerator and letting it downshift.My toys...
the Garage Queen - 2002 UltraZ Camaro
The DD- 1998 T/A WS6 clone with LS6 top end
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The off road toy - 1988 1500 Sierra 4x4
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Originally posted by Wild WillyGood luck finding your issue- just jumped in to point out that my Z28 shifts pretty hard, both upshifts and downshifts. Almost feels like there was a shift kit installed, if you know what I mean. I read that the Firebirds came with a switch that affected the shifting, having a 'sport' mode and normal mode, where the Camaro was always in 'sport' mode.
I got tired of the shifter moving around under load transitions, on throttle/off throttle, and put a UMI torque arm that is "frame" mounted under there. I don't think it made good sense to put those torque loads on the transmission tail. Still clunks and shifts hard, though. I just figure it is the nature of the beast- not expecting luxury car shifts from a light, powerful car with a firm-shifting transmission.2009 Honda Civic EX- the daily beater
old toys - 1983 trans am, 1988 trans am, 1986 IROC-Z, 2002 Ram Off-Road, 1984 K10, 1988 Mustang GT, 2006 Silverado 2500HD
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