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  • #16
    Since I know a considerable amount about V6s, I'm going to add my imput. It is possible to get a NA V6 to 340HP. It would take a serious amount of cash and due to the diplacement, you would have to trun a VERY high rpm to get it done. Factory parts wouldn't hold together. The low rpm torque would be weak, it would not be a pleasurable driving street car and would really require a built manual trans with a 4.10 or 4.56 rear gear. This is not an effecient use of cost per HP and should be relegated to a track only car that is suited for class record attempts. I seriously doubt someone would do this on the street.

    There is also NO WAY that simple bolt on parts will add 150 HP to a stock engine unless they are a power adder like a supercharger, turbo or nitrous. There isn't enough diplacement or design flaw in the factory parts to add that much more airflow. The only way to get that much power without power adders is to increase the airflow with more rpms and that means replacing almost everything.

    This thread is getting close to being a ricer war about who's car is faster than the other. ...... The original thread was about a swap, so keep it there.

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    • #17
      Here's a link to a thread on a young lady with a 96 3.8L V6 that is running 11.8 @ 113.8mph. It runs both nitrous and an S/C. Assuming she has the weight down to about 3,200#, that would indicate the engine is making about 375HP.... but it takes S/C and N2O!! Can't do it with a few "bolt ons".

      Magazine article.... look at stock and early mod's 1/4-mile figures

      CZ28.com thread, on Drag Racing forum....
      Fred

      381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tabahr
        So... the Honda S2000 is hot?? 240HP? sounds ok, but check out the torque. 162 Ft. Lbs.?! That is laughable. I can see that obliterating a V10 Viper. Sure. Blowing away vettes, Yup. Check out the facts:

        Have you ever driven a V8 or V10 sportscar?? Vipers and Vettes HAUL BUTT. There is absolutely no comparison to be made between a V8 - V10 and a V6 or I4.

        If you want to argue a modified Honda s2000 vs my hypothetical V10, I get to modify my car too then. It's only fair. The Honda most likely wouldnt make it to the end of the track without breaking something. I however would make it in the Viper, in just over 11 seconds with no internal mods, only bolt-ons LOL If you want to get really fancy, the Viper could be down way lower in ET.
        Listen... Have any of yal ever heard of the perfect set up...?

        Okay if yal haven't then here... A good perfect set up is when the car can produce puck loads of power but at the same time doesn't compromise its handling...

        Now I have driven a vette and a viper and a Firehawk and my base camaro... Even though all of them except the viper can hold the road better and are easier to steer... The base V6 and Vette have better weight distributions and are able to hook up the power easily... The Firehawk one big and major problem is that its concentration is more like the Viper's, it focuses on using its power for more straight down the line runs like on a drag strip or anything but the slalom and a road course like surfers beach road way... The Viper's main weakness is that the former vipers where suspension set up to go do the line easily and without mods. it loses power in the corners because of its handling...

        The best car set up to date... is the Honda S2000 with and without a super charger... The non supercharger can beat a f-body and y-body and the viper easily on a road course, granted they are not modified to handle the curves... The supercharge one can beat almost anything just as long as everyone is limited in top speed of about 130mph...

        Okay I hope that clarifies some things... Most of yal on this forum focus on power and straight-line speed, but if yal take the time and modify the engine with minor mods and modify the suspension greatly, and your driving style (because the nut behind the wheel is usually the weak link in the cars set up) then you could theoretically beable to out drive the Enzo Ferrari... THEORETICALLY...

        Good luck on your perfect set up... Because not many people can or have the money to modify the suspension 10 - 20 times trying to find the perfect set up... So in my case I started with the nut behind the wheel, which in this case is me...
        Thanks
        MaraSport

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        • #19
          Originally posted by tabahr
          Why would an engine modified only with external bolt-ons go through oil and overheat?

          That makes absolutely no sense at all. People here know better.

          Those HP numbers are absolutely posatively NOT attainable on the internally stock naturally aspirated f-body V6. Period. End of sentence, do not pass go, do not collect $200.00, THANKS for Stoppin!

          The LT-1 V8 would get near those numbers with only the bolt-ons you mentioned, but not the 6. The LS-1 even easier. Not the 6, not the 6, not the 6.

          LOL. God I can be obnoxiuose sometimes.
          Why is it that V8 and V10 people are so so so cout up in their hype horsepower ego...?

          Thanks Tracy for answering that...

          No may I add how can a stock 3.6 produce 375 horsepower and 340 lb ft of torque without reving over 6250rpms...

          Thanks again for answering that...
          Thanks
          MaraSport

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          • #20
            Marasport......

            I watched your HP arguement get shot down and then your arguement shifted to handling. It is obvious this thread was hijacked from the original subject and is not going anywhere except controversy. I wish it weren't this way but this thread is now locked.

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