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    so I have a few performance questions concerning my '93 LT1. What were the hp and torgue numbers for the stock setup?


    I am planning to put in a nice intake, pretty good headers with full exhuast, LT4 Hot Cam, a chip, and am going to rebuild the motor (probably only like 355ci), as well as a few odd-and-ends like pulleys, good oil, spark plugs and wires, etc. What do you thing would be the numbers then? I am just curious, because I would like to start planning for my chasis a little bit for the hot rod I am building and am putting the LT1 in.

    Thanks in advance, guys
    my car:
    '86 Caprice Classic. Soon to have a 350 crate motor. Shooting for 300rwhp.

    the project:
    check the www for pics, but a '36 Chevy Master Sedan, MII front end, Jaguar IRS, '93 LT1 powerplant with plans for 350rwhp, and many many other goodies

  • #2
    Stock is: 275 hp @ 5000, 325 tq @ 2400.

    I would guess after everything, 340-360 hp? I really don't see much in the intake without any head work IMHO.

    Good luck...
    94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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    • #3
      well, does anybody know of some places that do some decent head work? I just want something that is cleaned up and all.

      I know that Edelbrock has some Performer heads for ~$1k, are these worth it? They don't look all that special, especially since for twice as much I can get the LT4 kit for not much more.
      my car:
      '86 Caprice Classic. Soon to have a 350 crate motor. Shooting for 300rwhp.

      the project:
      check the www for pics, but a '36 Chevy Master Sedan, MII front end, Jaguar IRS, '93 LT1 powerplant with plans for 350rwhp, and many many other goodies

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      • #4
        Combination Motorsports are well known for their head work. They did my LT4 heads. The numbers were incredible.

        Combination Motorsports

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        • #5
          If tuned well, I would say around 350RWHP...easiest way to gauge is to get Dyno 2000 software and put in all your specs, I've personally found it to be quite accurate +/- 10RWHP. The more accurate your input numbers are the more accurate the HP tables are.



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          • #6
            Originally posted by fastTA
            Combination Motorsports are well known for their head work. They did my LT4 heads. The numbers were incredible.

            Combination Motorsports
            I called them up earlier today, and they want like $1200 to do the stage one thing for my heads. That is just as much money as if I bought the LT4 heads. By saying that, I am assuming that: I can get the kit for, lets say, $2100. at least $200 of that is for a cam that I will be getting. Plus, I would say that my LT1 heads are for a good $400-500. That leaves me to about $1400-1500 for the LT4 heads. Then the kit includes all the gaskets, the nice red intake (which is $230).


            so, I dunno.
            Thanks for all the advice though, guys
            my car:
            '86 Caprice Classic. Soon to have a 350 crate motor. Shooting for 300rwhp.

            the project:
            check the www for pics, but a '36 Chevy Master Sedan, MII front end, Jaguar IRS, '93 LT1 powerplant with plans for 350rwhp, and many many other goodies

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            • #7
              I agree with Timelord about using Desktop Dyno. You would be surprised at the numbers you'd see with stock heads! Other than that I have heard good reports from Lloyd Elliot out of Red Oak TX. Around 800 for a decent port/polish with bigger valves.
              His e-mail: nighttrain@msn.com

              OR... find a set of LT1 372 heads. They flow really well out of the box.
              95Z,A4 (w/TCI trans control unit), P&P LT1heads,Edelbrock shorties, CC233/242-.569/.576 114*LSA cam Crane 1.6 RR,LT1_editted. Ford 30#SVO's Vigi 3200 converter and a 150 shot of nitrous

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              • #8
                Here is a package deal with a price I think you will really like, and it will make much more power than the LT4 conversion kit.

                Scroll down to the bottom of the page to "power pack II":

                http://www.lt1f-body.racenet.net/valvetrain.php

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fastTA
                  Here is a package deal with a price I think you will really like, and it will make much more power than the LT4 conversion kit.

                  Scroll down to the bottom of the page to "power pack II":

                  http://www.lt1f-body.racenet.net/valvetrain.php
                  damn are those nice

                  however, do you still think those heads will be streetable? I guess it would all depend on the cam though.......


                  remember, I am NOT looking for balls-out performance. I am puting this LT1 in a '36 Chevy Master, so I need it to be able to idle VERY well (I have the 4L60-aka TH-700, and it might just run in some parades or somethin-all at about an idle), and just be able to cruise while still getting decent mileage.


                  AHHHHH, SO MANY FRICKEN CHOICES
                  I was looking through my Summit and found a set of pretty nice Trick Flows. 195cc intake ports, 75cc exhaust ports, 64cc combustion chambers, stainless steel 2.02"intake/1.60"exhaust valves, valve springs, retainers, loncks, guideplates, and 3/8" studs. All for only $1300.

                  then I have all the cams to choose from. AH, who could think spending money would be such a BITCH
                  my car:
                  '86 Caprice Classic. Soon to have a 350 crate motor. Shooting for 300rwhp.

                  the project:
                  check the www for pics, but a '36 Chevy Master Sedan, MII front end, Jaguar IRS, '93 LT1 powerplant with plans for 350rwhp, and many many other goodies

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                  • #10
                    Yes, you are right it would depend on the cam but it would absolutely be streetable. I had stage 3 LT4 heads, intake, and a Comp 233/239 cam on my stock bottom end and it was just a little rough on the bottom end (<2000rpm) but the top end more than made up for it . Idle was pretty radical but sounded righteous!!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fastTA
                      Yes, you are right it would depend on the cam but it would absolutely be streetable. I had stage 3 LT4 heads, intake, and a Comp 233/239 cam on my stock bottom end and it was just a little rough on the bottom end (<2000rpm) but the top end more than made up for it . Idle was pretty radical but sounded righteous!!
                      yea, but that is a 233/239 cam

                      hell, even the LT4 Hot Cam is only 218/228 (but a pretty high lift at .525/.525)
                      my car:
                      '86 Caprice Classic. Soon to have a 350 crate motor. Shooting for 300rwhp.

                      the project:
                      check the www for pics, but a '36 Chevy Master Sedan, MII front end, Jaguar IRS, '93 LT1 powerplant with plans for 350rwhp, and many many other goodies

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                      • #12
                        Origianlly posted by wako29:
                        yea, but that is a 233/239 cam

                        hell, even the LT4 Hot Cam is only 218/228 (but a pretty high lift at .525/.525)
                        I guess I was just trying to show that even my more extreme setup was streetable. So in comparison a stage 2 setup would be even more mild. Didn't mean to be confusing.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by fastTA
                          I guess I was just trying to show that even my more extreme setup was streetable. So in comparison a stage 2 setup would be even more mild. Didn't mean to be confusing.
                          nope, your not confusing

                          I was just stating that your cam is really wild, and that the "mildness" of an engine relies more over a cam than the heads. Really nice setup you have there BTW. I definetly have to give you props for that
                          my car:
                          '86 Caprice Classic. Soon to have a 350 crate motor. Shooting for 300rwhp.

                          the project:
                          check the www for pics, but a '36 Chevy Master Sedan, MII front end, Jaguar IRS, '93 LT1 powerplant with plans for 350rwhp, and many many other goodies

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                          • #14
                            I've been looking into this same thing. I'm leaning towards the Lloyd Elliot porting on my stock heads with an XE224/230 and ported intake.
                            '95 Trans Am - A4, LE2 heads, LE1 cam, 1.6 ProMags, Comp R's, AS&M CAI, AS&M 54mm, MAC midlengths, Random Tech. cat, Borla cat back, PCMforless, Vigilante 2800, 3.73's, BMR LCAs/panhard/shock tower brace

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