spark plugs and wires

[PhantomZ28]

ok i jsut have a question, what are the best affordiable spark plugs and wires? and what are the very best? and how much would they cost? the reason i ask is i think i got screwed over. it cost me over $500.00 for new wires and spark plugs and instilation. their AC Delco 8.5mm wires and the standard plugs. did i just get ripped?

[00 Ragtop Z]

If you had the install done by a mechanic, you may not have been screwed over. The problem is what has to be done to replace certain plugs on fourth gen f-bodies. Like y-pipe, starter, etc. have to be moved/removed in order to get to the rear plugs on I think the passenger side. There are some people on this board who have done the job themselves, and after spending literally 5-10 hours or more, they are willing to pay anyone to do the job the next time. Some of the folks have all the right lift equipment and plenty of time. Me, when the time comes to replace my plugs and wires, I will pay someone to do it--and I expect to pay about $400 or so, as that is about the going rate as best understand.

[NorthernSS]

When I got my SLP LM and headers I had them installed at my buddies dealership(he works there not owns). I asked him if I should just do the plugs and wires while everything is apart. He checked GM book time and it was 5 hours. And if a service mechanic works at $60-70/hour you could pay $300-350 just for labour. Then the price of plugs and wires on top of that. So we decided to get his Dad to do it for $200. It was $120 for my plugs and wires. From now on I will do it myself for sure.

[PhantomZ28]

ok that part is starting to make sence but the bill i got... it said it cost $230.00 for acelco wires (not the plugs)!! is that the price of the acdelco wires and still i ask whats the best wires out their?

[94 formula]

Mine took the good part of 10 hours but really all that needs removed is the starter and alternator and your set now that I know how to do it I don't think its that big of job really, and I think you'll get alot of different opinions on the wires but unless you have alot of mods AC's are fine.

[Craig 94 TA GT]

Well, I'm using NGK-TR55s with Taylor Spiro Pro 8 mm wires...after 2 years, no problems. However, ever since I installed the wires/plugs, I have been seeing the ABS INOP light so I'm not sure if it's due to interference of the wires? I can't see how I destroyed anything when I changed them.
I think I made record time when I did them recently...just takes practice.
The first time I've ever done it was on my T/A, took almost 8 hours. I learned a lot though. Second pass was on Steve 93Z's sister's 96 Z28, which took about the same time. The last time I did it, it took 2 hours for all 8 plugs and 1 wire. It would have taken only 1-2 more at the most for the wires...so my estimate is 4 hours for everything - only because I have experience and thin arms where I didn't have to drop the y-pipe.
So my suggestion...the first time(s) take a long time, but once you know where everything is, it should cut the time in half.

[86TransAm350]

you did get ripped bigtime....500 is ridiculous maybe im talkin dumb here cause i dont know what the new TAs are like buy my 86 i did plugs and wires it took like 1 :30 first time i ever did it.....wires cost 60-70 roughly....plugs 20 bucks so...thats real bad

[PhantomZ28]

ok but have you seen the lt1 engine?! you know how hard it is to get to a few of those wires? but yeah thats what i figured well now if i need the replaced i'll buy my ownand take it to him and say " replace it with these wires"

[86TransAm350]

ya but alot of places wont do that....before i just say forget it ill do it myself i called all around...and the guys were like ahh shouldnt be too much and i was like what if i have the parts i swear 3 people said we dont do that....all nasty and hung up on me....its like your friggin stupid.....do you want business or not....just take what you can get im sure the places dont make out bigtime....but hey whatever i did it myself....

[PhantomZ28]

well the reason they want that is cuz they prollie get comission or advertisement with acdelco. but i got a block with tons of echanics i'll just go andpark adn ask the in person i think i get a better responce that way

[alenstein]

I had my plugs replaced a month ago, choice of NGK tr55 $19 at stealth perforamnce, it took 2 mechanics 30 miuntes and $50 bucks extra, at the same time i had my oil change done (synthetic) and my rear lower arms replaced(my parts) total $140.
$500 is a little steep , i think.

[Mirroredshades]

Hey Phantom! Ignore the rest of the posts. You got about an average deal.

Try and find the back 2 plugs on the passenger side and you will understand why its so expensive.

The GM plugs and the NGK's are about the best on the market.

[97CamaroRS]

I changed my plugs my self, well, 5 of them, i'm changing the middle one on the drivers side this up-comming monday in my Auto-tech class (they have fancy and expensive tools there) to change those 5 plugs it took me from 8am till roughly 5:45pm. And i'm not new at this Auto-mechanics stuff In fact it took me less time to remove the engine from an 83' Datsun 200SX, and tear down about 3/4 of the engine.
So remember guys,
#1. Dissasemble car.
#2. Pound head on wall.
#3. Wipe the tears from your eyes and realize that this process that normally takes 20 minutes tops on a 79' Chevy truck will take you 7 - 10 hours (or more)
#4. After clearing the tears from your eyes again either: Prepare for the long haul, or prepare to hand your local mechanic a large check.
Either way it's gonna cost you....love you GM but next time....Please! Think!

[Stealth Performance]

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[PhantomZ28]

okie dokie thanks for the advice, especialy the head banging! its brillant! but whats your poinion on these plugs?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2456067428