found them

[redbird94]

finally found the exhuast setup that i want it is a mac system, mac headers,offroad y-pipe,3 inch collecter,and 3' cat-back with muffler total comes to $899.93 they claim an easy bolt on 52 hp.what do you guys think any responses appreciated

[JeffM]

I had a Mac 3" catback, and it got a hole in it, and one pipe broke off in about a year.

Not sure how other's faired. Although to their credit, they sent me a new muffler.

[wolfdogs]

Re: found them

Originally posted by redbird94
finally found the exhuast setup that i want it is a mac system, mac headers,offroad y-pipe,3 inch collecter,and 3' cat-back with muffler total comes to $899.93 they claim an easy bolt on 52 hp.what do you guys think any responses appreciated

you dont get 52hp from an exhaut system, heck..you dont get that much from a cam and reprograming. thats bull S!!!!!!

mac has a bad rep for rusting out. be carefull.

[DJ Taso]

wolfman's right. An exhaust system will not give you 52hp. You'll be lucky to get 5 at the most. Only if you're heavly modified an exhaust system will give you more.

[wolfdogs]

Originally posted by DJ Taso
wolfman's right. An exhaust system will not give you 52hp. You'll be lucky to get 5 at the most. Only if you're heavly modified an exhaust system will give you more.

actualy, 15 hp is possible. in 1994, slp engineering dynoed 15hp extra with the "two on the left" cat back on a stock forumla during the firehawk modificaiton process. it was all "real". thats at the flywheel..not rw's. thats the most ive seen to date. now with headers..you get alittle more. but anything over 20hp or so is outrageous claims.....

[Craig 94 TA GT]

To get a rear wheel sense, the borla cat-back made 10.4 more RWHP in a '96 WS6. 1 5/8" headers + 2 1/2" y-pipe were an extra 14.1 hp after the cat-back. It's on ws6.com. So that totals 24.5 more RWHP with a full exhaust - a more likely number to attain.

[Black97]

Originally posted by Craig 94 TA GT
To get a rear wheel sense, the borla cat-back made 10.4 more RWHP in a '96 WS6. 1 5/8" headers + 2 1/2" y-pipe were an extra 14.1 hp after the cat-back. It's on ws6.com. So that totals 24.5 more RWHP with a full exhaust - a more likely number to attain.

Yep you can read it here and it's been proven on the Dyno. Do they have a Dyno chart to back these numbers up?

http://www.ws6.com/bangbuck.htm

[Craig 94 TA GT]

Yep, they're all on this page...

http://www.ws6.com/mycar.htm

[wolfdogs]

ws6.com is a no bs dude. he's been doing this along time. very well respected. as far back as 97 folks.... when we all got started on here.

[redbird94]

so is the headers and whole setup worth 899 cuz that is prbly i i will have to spend i am looking for most power

[Craig 94 TA GT]

huh? lol
Not sure if I understand what you're saying. If you're saying you're looking for the most power, I personally believe that the SLP 2OTL will get you the most. I also know the Loudmouth is worth a lot, but not sure how much. Borla is good too.
Don't think a MAC cat-back could compete with those brands in terms of power...IMHO.
As far as headers, I'm not sure about which long-tubes are the best, considering I'm from the restricted state of CA...where I can only use short tubes and still pass smog.
BTW, I remember a while back Injuneer (I believe) said that someone had a 3" off-road pipe in place of the stock cat. Later, a Carsound cat was installed in place of the off-road pipe and he ran 1 mph higher - than without the cat. This could be because there was too little backpressure, and the Carsound cat helped tune it out a bit. I'm not sure the exact story; maybe Injuneer can help you on that one. (I think it was Injuneer...if not, I'm losing my mind!)

[briantech]

Originally posted by wolfman
ws6.com is a no bs dude. he's been doing this along time. very well respected. as far back as 97 folks.... when we all got started on here.

I was looking through his site... with all the modifications he's done to his car, his best 1/4 time is still only 13.3 on street tires? I thought stock LT1's ran high 13's off the line, and this guy's done just about every mod out there...

[redbird94]

this is what they claim
headers-28 but guy says 22
3 inch collector takes place of cat-6.3
catback-18.9
and i forgot what the y-piep was

[Black97]

Originally posted by briantech
I was looking through his site... with all the modifications he's done to his car, his best 1/4 time is still only 13.3 on street tires? I thought stock LT1's ran high 13's off the line, and this guy's done just about every mod out there...

Don't know about the numbers. But I think he's more about racing on roads than on 1/4 mile tracks. So he has it maybe more tuned towards those races rather than the 1/4 mile.

http://www.ws6.com/events.htm

[redbird94]

anyone suggest better exhaust setup with similar price with headers looking to gain bout 30 hp
bout 800 for headers and cat-back mayb a lil more