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    i got my car back today, i had a spec stage 3 clutch installed. someone please help me i feel like im tearing my baby up i cant go from stop to go without shaking the everloving mess out of my car and chirping the dang tires, im going as easy as i can on her for the first 500-1000 miles to break her in. help me fellas~gunter


    1996 Trans Am WS6 #34
    http://www.cardomain.com/id/gunter96ws6

  • #2
    Your gears may be too close together. Check them out
    http://www.hrgarage.cjb.net
    Wait, you drive a what...

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    • #3
      the gears in my tranny?~gunter


      1996 Trans Am WS6 #34
      http://www.cardomain.com/id/gunter96ws6

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      • #4
        i doubt thats it man, nothing in that dept. has changed. just the clutch throughout bearing and pressure plate, and it killin me tryin to drive it its nothing like stock, tips please~gunter


        1996 Trans Am WS6 #34
        http://www.cardomain.com/id/gunter96ws6

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        • #5
          oh, i dont know that much, i just know that if ur gears are real close, sometimes u burnout going through gears..sorry...dont know
          http://www.hrgarage.cjb.net
          Wait, you drive a what...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by StangEatr
            oh, i dont know that much, i just know that if ur gears are real close, sometimes u burnout going through gears..sorry...dont know
            man...........where in the SAmHill did you come up with that?

            and Gunther....... you put a very stiff aftermarket clutch in your car..may have been overkill. and you dont need to "break it in' either. just drive the car. you will have to "re-learn" your "clutch slipping" techniques now... this is the way those clutches are.

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            • #7
              As Ken said, you need to relearn how to drive the car. Go to a deserted parking lot out of the way of any traffic, practice getting the car moving WITHOUT touching the throttle from idle. It is a great technique for learning how much slip the new setup has. By not touching the throttle, this practice will give you the left foot feel of slipping the clutch without bogging the motor. It may take a while, but once you learn that way, the rest is easier. Also check to make sure the trans mount is still solid. If that is breaking up, all kinds of vibrations a shudders are possible.

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              • #8
                Racing parts on a Street car... Those clutches are made to not slip, so they seem grabby compared to stock.

                I've known guys to try solid engine mounts and solid mounted suspension components, too - they are along the same lines not that great for a driver.

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                • #9
                  so the clutch dosent need time to break in? not what the installer said, but i trust you guys. what do you mean not touchin the throttle, will it not stall out if i let out the clutch and not give it throttle? ~gunter


                  1996 Trans Am WS6 #34
                  http://www.cardomain.com/id/gunter96ws6

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                  • #10
                    It is indeed possible by using only the clutch, to get a car moving. Granted, you aren't trying to do this from a traffic light, nor are you trying to get the car moving fast. This is an exercise in training your left leg to operate a touchy clutch. It goes like this:

                    Find an empty lot, let the car idle with the shifter in first and the clutch fully depressed. ever so slowly and gently, let up on the clutch until you feel it start to engage. If there is any slip, gradually release the clutch ever so slowly while the car begins to move. If you let out too quick, you'll stall the motor. If the clutch grabs, instantly depress the clutch to prevent stalling. If the engine is at idle speed, let's say 700 rpm and the clutch grabs, there will be some foreward movement, albiet not much, and the goal is to get the car moving one to two MPH with the clutch fully engaged and your foot off the throttle. It may take you a dozen tries to get the hang of it, but it do work! If you practice this perhaps a hundred times, you'll have an educated left foot and you'll have the best touch to operate a clutch. Then you work on combining what you've already learned and adding throttle. Hopefully you don't have a full race clutch and pressure plate. That would be a nightmare on the street.

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                    • #11
                      i could do that with my old clutch but im still learning to do that with this one, thanks fellas~gunter


                      1996 Trans Am WS6 #34
                      http://www.cardomain.com/id/gunter96ws6

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                      • #12
                        I was thinking about the McLeod dual-disk clutch when I replace mine... I'm up to the challenge of learning how to drive all over again, which I no doubt will have to do, haha...

                        So do you basically have a leg-press exercise machine, now? How stiff is the clutch now?

                        Best of luck to you, I'm sure you'll get it
                        Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

                        Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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                        • #13
                          nah if you ge something nasty like the one i have youll have to learn all over again, the clutch is pretty stiff, i put it in neutral at stoplights and stuff its just too much~gunter


                          1996 Trans Am WS6 #34
                          http://www.cardomain.com/id/gunter96ws6

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                          • #14
                            You'll get it, and I bet after you get the hang of it, you'll love it. Besides, you know that if anyone tries to steal it they won't be going anywhere
                            Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

                            Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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                            • #15
                              gunter96ws6, I have a SPEC III clutch (ceramic) installed a couple months ago. Personally I had no issues with chatter with mine (3.73's probably help some there) and gotta say it's little harder to drive than stock once you get over the initial learning curve. The engagement is more abrupt but once you learn (and get used to) just exactly where that engagement point is in your clutch travel, it'll make things a lot easier. Pretty soon it's second nature and it honestly will feel little different from stock - at least that's the way it seems to me now.

                              Oh yea, there definitely is a break in period too that you want to pay attention to with this clutch. Drive it easy for the frist 500 miles with lots of gear changes. Then once that period is over, do several 3000rpm dumps and it'll smooth out even more.

                              Be patient, it IS a great clutch - just give yourself some time to adjust!
                              '98 WS6 Formula M6

                              A few mods...best 1/4 mile results so far 12.64 and 115mph

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