Anyone with headers

[94 formula]

Anybody with headers will you please tell me what kind you have, price, what type of power increase you got from them, and where you got them. I've worked enough overtime the past few weeks to justify to myself buying them now all I have to do is figure out what kind I want and I'm really stumped and need some help.

[Fastbird93]

I have Arizona Speed and Marine. I paid $750 for them brand new.

I also put on a high flow cat and cat-back (both Random Tech) at the same time as the headers. Ended up with a solid and repeated multiple times .5 and 5 MPH in the 1/4.

[Injuneer]

I started with the 1-5/8" JBA "step" headers... and they were just "OK"... good low end torque, but really choked the engine at high RPM. When I built the stroker, I switched to a pair of 1-3/4" AS&M's. A buddy of mine had dyno'd them at over 900HP on his 30th SS. Hard to tell how much power they contributed, because I went from a bolt-on/nitrous motor (JBA's) making maybe to 425HP to an 800HP 381 (AS&M's) in a single step.

[Barry 94Formula]

AS&M 1 3/4. Paid 450 for a used set shipped to my door. No Valid dyno numbers.

[Joe 1320]

I have SLP shorties and Random Tech high flow dual cat Y pipe. About $1000 new for both. About a 25 hp increase with no ground clearance problems associated with long tubes.

[94 formula]

Thanks for the input guys I still haven't decided what I want mainly because I don't understand all the lenghs of them and everything else and I'm a little scared to try to get the manifolds off and them on lol.

[paxton350]

tes

i have edelbrock TES headers [ceramic coated]. paid $629 for em. only thing i dont realllly care for is spark plugs take like an extra 10 min to change esp when the headers are hot because of their design. but overall theyre great an no problems really. oh an also does anyone know why edelbrock added TES "tubular exhaust system" to the name of these headers.... arent all exhaust systems tubular! lol

-chris

[94 formula]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33631

I found these on E-bay while looking around and I'm thinking about getting them. Good idea or not?

[Injuneer]

Those are the PaceSetter long tubes. Note that the ceramic coating (just about mandatory) and the off-road Y-pipe are "extra", and not included in the auction price.

The "long tube" design headers seem to provide a very good balance for street and track use. They have a couple potential drawbacks:

-the drivers side collector/Y-pipe branch usually reduces ground clearance... a definite problem on lowered cars and a possible problem on others.

-they can not be emissions legal, because they relocate the cat. They will pass the tailpipe part of emissions with a cat or dual cats (not included with the off-road Y-pipe), they will not pass a rigid "visual" inspection, IF the inspector knows what the stock exhaust is supposed to look like. If you don't have local emissions requirements, you will be OK.

-require O2 sensor harness extensions (as do some mid-length designs).

I think the PaceSetters have become very popular because of their low price. Competing systems would be the Hooker SuperComp LTs (no emissions connections or O2 bungs), FLP (a complete system, fully coated, including Y-pipe and dual bullet drop-out cats - but pricey at $1,200), Jet-Hot and TPIS.

[UMI Performance]

QTP (Quick Time Performance) has a very nice stainless steel set up. They are a bit pricey but the performance and fit is well worth it. A long tube set will run you $799, there some dyno #'s out there showing the increases over the SLP, Kooks, FLP and some others. If I remember right the Kooks set up was the closet out of them all. Also they are available with a electric cut out set up or cats if needed. They are worth looking into.

Good luck with your purchase
Ryan

[NorthernSS]

I have SLP shorties and got them for about $565 from SLP. I did feel a increase in power across the powerband but I also had the Loudmouth installed at the same time. If I could do it again I would have gone with long tubes with emissions hook ups and high flow cats.

[2cub49]

The SLP Shorties for the 96-97 cars works very well with the random dual cat ypipe.
The TPiS longtube setup I have now is better but only by another 10 hp or so.
I put the TPiS's in because of the supercharger.
Too many people badmouth the SLP shorties wheras the restriction is in the factory ypipe.