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    OK guys, here is your chance to talk me out of it.

    Please, please, please make a good point for me to consider!

    Our family's Saturn was turned in earlier this summer. After my dad had passed, that had become a sort of third car for us that no one was really using, so I drove it in winters.

    So now I am without a daily driver. I am considering getting a really cheap "beater" for the winter, but if the beater doesn't last, then I am really screwed.

    I don't want two car payments either. That wouldn't be smart.

    So I have been looking around. My mom just bought a G35x, and while she was shopping for cars, one of the cars she looked at was the Volvo S60R. The car stickers for $42K. I drove that thing, and it was the most incredible car I have ever driven. It did EVERYTHING well. The last time I was that impressed with a car when I test drove it was ------- 3 years ago when I first drove an LS1 f-body. Look how that turned out.

    With the equity I have in my car, as well as some money in the bank, I can trade in the T/A and get payments very similar to what I have now. Best of all, I will have a car I can drive around daily (AWD), and is much more civil, comfortable, and refined. When I have a family, it won't be impractical either.

    All "practicality" aside, the car is a seriously wicked machine. 2.5L turbo charged inline 5, DOHC with CVVT. It makes 295 ft-lbs of torque from 1950 to 5200 RPMS!!!! It has sensors all around the suspension that report the cars movement 500 times a second to adjust the damping accordingly for effective cornering. It has up to 95% power transfer to any one wheel at any time. The car doesn't understeer either, the power is transferred to the rear wheels in cornering to produce a "slight" oversteer. It took a freeway cloverleaf on ramp at WOT at 80 mph with no problem. I could not believe it. Best of all, the engine is built for forced induction. With a boost controller and a larger turbo, I could produce some serious horsepower numbers.

    I would be so so so so sad to sell my WS6 ... but all things considered... can anyone talk me out of this?
    Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

    Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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    Wanna trade for a Camaro.

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    • #3
      Hehehe... no thanks

      Honestly though... can you come up with a reason why I shouldn't do this?
      Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

      Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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      • #4
        Man, it's all up to you, but I would like you to contemplate the following statement for a little while first...


        "I traded in my 320 hp WS6 for a Volvo"

        FWIW, I could never utter that sentence. It would just kill me. Right then and there. You got to do what's right for you. If the Volvo does it for ya, then jump. I don't use my TA for daily duty, so I cannot compare. The 04 F-150 FX4 handles all the snow, ice, rain, daily driving crap for me just nicely.

        I remember the first time I drove the TA, and it put such a smile on my face, the salesman could have been a crash test dummy and I would have still bought the car. Nothin cheers me up like pressing the loud button on that car and getting just smashed into the seat with accelleration. Plus, after a couple years with me, the car is part of the family now. I have done enough to it that it's mine, not just any f-body. I have never owned just any regular f-car. They have to be mine. It's a strange thing to explain. I had my Camaro for 10+ years and I cried like a baby when I sold it. It hurt, Lots. These cars are just a part of me. I would not know what to do without it.


        /pats car on fender


        -Paul

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        • #5
          Jay, I'd vote to just buy a beater car for a grand or something like that. You can get a high mileage Honda or toyota that would still have lots of years left in it. Save the Volvo for the time when you do have a family. My 91 Camry has 227,000 miles on it and still runs like new, getting 30+ mpg, and I beat the crap out of it. The paint's faded, there are dents all over, but no rust and mechanically sound after 13 years and 220,000+ miles. Never a major repair. It's my daily driver and I save the WS6 for the nice sunny days or when I need a stress reliever.

          In the end it comes down to what you want. I have to admit that if I had to drive the WS6 every day, I might be tempted to trade into something more civil and more suited for the daily commute. But only you can decide what you really need/want.
          Dave M
          Life, liberty, and the pursuit of all who threaten it!


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          • #6
            Jay's WS6 ain't 320 HP. It's 400+. No such thing as a 320 HP LS1. Most of them are right around 350 out of the factory. Those are GM pansy ratings.

            Jay I would say to do what Dave suggested. Can't you just find a cheap beater for like 2K or less to just pay cash for. I've seen plenty of decent beaters around here for less than $1500. That way you wouldn't have 2 car payments.

            Don't put the cart before the horse with the family plans. Enjoy your youth and your muscle car while you can!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fastTA
              Don't put the cart before the horse with the family plans. Enjoy your youth and your muscle car while you can!!

              But you're forgetting one thing... this car IS a serious performer. It might be a moderate step backwards in straight-line performance, but it does just about everything else better. And since it is built for forced induction, I don't think it will stay behind the WS6 in the 1320 for too long. Plus with a boost controller I could tame it back down in the winters.

              I am not so much worried about losing performance here as I am losing my baby
              Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

              Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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              • #8
                I bought my Buick for $3,000 with only 50K on it. It will last me for yours. I'm sure you could find something similar in the $3000 range. Dont kid yourself into thinking you can find something nice for less than 3. Nobody wants to drive around every day in a total piece of crap, right?

                I could never bring myself to sell my f-body to buy a Volvo. For shame! The Volvo is not a hobbyists car. Their is not the same satisfaction in owning it because it is not as fun to tinker on.

                It is up to you, and your hobby needs on waht you do. I could never give up my hobby. It is way too
                Tracy
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TraceZ
                  I could never bring myself to sell my f-body to buy a Volvo. For shame! The Volvo is not a hobbyists car. Their is not the same satisfaction in owning it because it is not as fun to tinker on.
                  Not as much fun to tinker on? It's turbo-charged right from the factory! It would be a great car to tinker with!

                  Plus, since it isn't a "hobbyist's" car like you said - it would be one heck of a slepper when I am through with it.

                  But still... the thought of handing my keys to someone else is something I just don't want to think about...
                  Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

                  Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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                  • #10
                    For the price of the S60R you could get yourself a nice 3 series BMW. I think that would be amuch better choice. But that's just me. And they aren't slow either, trust me.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fastTA
                      For the price of the S60R you could get yourself a nice 3 series BMW. I think that would be amuch better choice. But that's just me. And they aren't slow either, trust me.

                      Kevin, after a comment like that... I have one thing to say to you... drive the S60R.
                      Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

                      Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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                      • #12
                        Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

                        Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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                        • #13
                          I'm sure it is quick. I just much rather prefer the styling and overall looks of the 325ci.

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                          • #14
                            Here is another pretty good pic:

                            http://www.thhe.dk/biler/BMW_325Ci_1024.jpg

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                              Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.

                              Current Ride: 2006 Subaru Legacy GT Limited - spec.B #312 of 500

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