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There are more and more conspiracies all the time like the idea that we never actually landed on the moon. They definitely make you think.Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
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So, whats their point? Are they implying that our own fighters shot a missile into the pentagon? Why would they do that? Maybe im missing the accusation here?96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
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Originally posted by N20LT4BirdSo, whats their point? Are they implying that our own fighters shot a missile into the pentagon? Why would they do that? Maybe im missing the accusation here?
My question is this?
If this is a faked jet, what about all the dead souls on board? How do you fake the 64 people that died? They would have beed registered on that flight, and would have families mourning their loss.Tracy
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Well, as long as those photos haven't been modified, then there's no way that was a 757. There would be something left of it. The thing that really makes me think is the spools on the ground. If the plane was flying 2 feet above the ground then those spools would be buried in the pentagon. And I have never seen those interior ring penetration pictures before. There is no possible way a 757 is going to make such a small, precise hole in a wall. That's why I'm saying it's either photoshop, proof, or pictures of something other than the actual pentagon pictures used on this site to make you think.
There's also the possibility that the 757 was shot down over water. The FAA could cover that up and it would still explain the loss of those lives.
Of course, taking the government's side on this one, there are people that think everything is a government conspiracy, and this is just the internet version of that. Like Area 51, Roswell, moon landings, etc. The only time we'll know is when we die and ask God."No, officer, that bottle is my onboard Halon system"
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Originally posted by MN6WS6Well, as long as those photos haven't been modified, then there's no way that was a 757. There would be something left of it. The thing that really makes me think is the spools on the ground. If the plane was flying 2 feet above the ground then those spools would be buried in the pentagon. And I have never seen those interior ring penetration pictures before. There is no possible way a 757 is going to make such a small, precise hole in a wall. That's why I'm saying it's either photoshop, proof, or pictures of something other than the actual pentagon pictures used on this site to make you think.
There's also the possibility that the 757 was shot down over water. The FAA could cover that up and it would still explain the loss of those lives.
Of course, taking the government's side on this one, there are people that think everything is a government conspiracy, and this is just the internet version of that. Like Area 51, Roswell, moon landings, etc. The only time we'll know is when we die and ask God.
Also, a 757 cannot fly 2 feet off the ground. The engines on the wings hang down at least 6 feet. It is easy to see how it missed the spools.
Who knows the origin of those pictures, and if they are untouched. I do see alot of questions, but it could all be a bunch of crap, too. I an needless to say, suspisous that it may have been a conspiracy, but not totally sold on it.Tracy
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Wow! Somebody sure has alot of time on their hands. I just love the story of a conspiracy, and the alternate views expressed..... but really?
Way too many people involved in order to keep it a secret.
One of my favorites is that the Navy shot down TWA flight 800, now that one gives ja a warm and fuzzey feeling too.The Old Guy! '94 z-28, m-6, t-tops, go-fast red, 316k. Now with '96 engine w/ Lt-4 hot cam, roller rockers, heavy duty timing chain, and Spec stage 2 clutch.
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How about the one that says demolition explosives must have been used in the WTC collapse for them to crumble the way they did?
Long story short on that one... Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to weaken steel to its critical point -- 20% of full strength. Static load reinforcement requirements state that a structure must be able to withstand 5 times of the weight it is designed for. Jet fuel could only have weakened the supports to 60% of full strength.
On top of that, the structures "telescoped". If the plane sliced through the support beams, the top of the structure should have toppled over - like when you cut the top off a Christmas tree in the woods.
Just another one to ponder...Former Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.
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Originally posted by Jay 02 TA ws6How about the one that says demolition explosives must have been used in the WTC collapse for them to crumble the way they did?
Long story short on that one... Jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to weaken steel to its critical point -- 20% of full strength. Static load reinforcement requirements state that a structure must be able to withstand 5 times of the weight it is designed for. Jet fuel could only have weakened the supports to 60% of full strength.
On top of that, the structures "telescoped". If the plane sliced through the support beams, the top of the structure should have toppled over - like when you cut the top off a Christmas tree in the woods.
Just another one to ponder...
No conspiracy there.
You dont really think the government would intentionally kill thousands for no reason,. do you? That is crazy.
I know a guy that believes all this stuff. In additon he believes the first WTC bombing was planned by the government because they supplied the bomb to the terrorists, and even told them the best place to park in the basement to bring down the building, but it didnt work because someone was illegally parked in the basement and they could not maneuver there truck bomb into the correct location. There are crazy people among us that truely believe this stuff!Tracy
2002 C5 M6 Convertible
1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
Current Mods:
SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids
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Originally posted by TraceZThose steel strength figures are crap. If you heat the stuff up red hot, like the fire fueled by jet fuel would had it has no strength. The top floors would come strait down. Once the momentum of the top floors hit down, it kept going until there was just a pile of rubble.
No conspiracy there.
You dont really think the government would intentionally kill thousands for no reason,. do you? That is crazy.
I know a guy that believes all this stuff. In additon he believes the first WTC bombing was planned by the government because they supplied the bomb to the terrorists, and even told them the best place to park in the basement to bring down the building, but it didnt work because someone was illegally parked in the basement and they could not maneuver there truck bomb into the correct location. There are crazy people among us that truely believe this stuff!
Here is the link to the WTC conspiracy theory...
http://www.public-action.com/911/jmcm/physics_1.htmlFormer Ride: 2002 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 - 345 rwhp, 360 rwtq... stock internally.
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What a bunch of crap. You would not have to make steel reach its (liquid)melting point for it to fail. Just get it red hot and its strength is severely limited. We've gotten steel tubing to bend in a campfire when struck lightly, it is not that hard to do.
The guy that put that site together is an idiot. Obviously it DID get hot enough to fail, because IT DID FAIL!
If he is suggesting that something other than the fires brought down the buildings, he is off his rocker. Plain and simple, nobody would intentionally do something like that and get away with covering it up. There are not that many eveil people that high in our government. If something like that were possible, we would see it with other problems elsewhere. This is just dumb.
He even disputes the way the concrete turned to powder.
He's right. it is all a big conspiracy. It began when the buildings were built, and they used "fake" powder-crete instead of concrete. Jeesh, what a loser. If you try hard enough you can make a web site showing damn near anything.Tracy
2002 C5 M6 Convertible
1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
Current Mods:
SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids
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Here is an analytical evaluation of why the towers fell.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning
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