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    What a bunch of #%*! this is....

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=7920083956

    Anybody try this one out yet? 200 additional ft/lbs of torque at 50% throttle It will really help for all those times im racing at half throttle
    96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
    11.6 @ 123mph (1.6 60' - getting there )
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    LOL So basically, you don't have to floor it to "floor it" anymore.

    Give me a break.
    94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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    • #3
      Do i smell BS. Wait maybe its my upper lip.....no its not my lip.
      1996 Trans Am:T-tops,graphite leather,16" chrome T/A rims, Nitto's, Descreened MAF, Morosso CAI, hypertech, flowtech cut out, 1LE elbow, Silver BMR tubular SFC's, 160 thermo, limo tint, harwood ws6 hood, !side molding, Stage 2 trans.

      Looking for a driver side window.

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      • #4
        Before everytone starts bashing this part, know that it really does do something. Originally intended for Turbo applications, it does indeed help with turbo spool and fueling at lower rpms and throttle inputs. I run one on my turbo buick but the threshold is 70%. The turbo spools faster and allows the motor to make more power before triggering the transmission to upshift to a lower gear while on the fly.

        That being said, putting that on a non turbo application is basically useless. Now you guys can laugh at the company trying to apply this to a typical V8. Fuel economy will suffer and throttle response will be far less linear.

        Great idea, bad application.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Joe 1320
          Before everytone starts bashing this part, know that it really does do something. Originally intended for Turbo applications, it does indeed help with turbo spool and fueling at lower rpms and throttle inputs. I run one on my turbo buick but the threshold is 70%. The turbo spools faster and allows the motor to make more power before triggering the transmission to upshift to a lower gear while on the fly.

          :
          Im not trying to be arguementative or anything like that. How does it help the turbo to spool faster? Only higher exhaust pressures (or different impeller blade angles) make the turbo spool faster. It seems that the PCM would just be falsely richening the mixture. Unless, you have the boost cranked up and coming in sooner and then need the PCM to compensate......

          But yea.... I couldnt figure how that would do anything on a naturally aspirated motor.
          96 WS6 Formula: Ram Air, 383 Stroker, Ported LT4 Heads and Manifold, 1.6 Crane Rollers, 58MM T.B., AS&M Headers, Borla Exhaust, Meziere Elec. H2O Pump, Canton Deep Sump Oil Pan, 100 HP OF TNT N2O!! , T56 Conversion w/ Pro 5.0 shifter, SPEC Stage 3 Clutch, Hotchkiss Subframe Conn., Lakewood Adj. Panhard Bar, Spohn Adj. LCA's, BMR Adj. T.A., Custom 12 bolt w/ 3:73's, Moser Axles, Eaton Posi, Moser Girdle
          11.6 @ 123mph (1.6 60' - getting there )

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          • #6
            Originally posted by N20LT4Bird
            Im not trying to be arguementative or anything like that. How does it help the turbo to spool faster? Only higher exhaust pressures (or different impeller blade angles) make the turbo spool faster. It seems that the PCM would just be falsely richening the mixture. Unless, you have the boost cranked up and coming in sooner and then need the PCM to compensate......

            But yea.... I couldnt figure how that would do anything on a naturally aspirated motor.

            Yup. Nothing is really stock anymore except a few accessories. I have a couple of band aid devices like that because I really need a better program but haven't been able to get it dyno tuned properly. I still run a couple of mail order tuned chips, one for street and another for race but also rely on a 7th injector at the moment due to the need for the mentioned dyno tune. Ditto for the trans shift points and such. I've got to spend some time (and $$) this fall to get everything 100% the right way.

            So yeah, it is still a band aid.




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