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[ONLNTM5]

Bush supporters-Lets keep Bush in our thoughts and prayers during tonight’s debate with Kerry. The race is close, and he needs all of the help that he can get.

I saw on Fox news this morning, that a school teacher was suspended by Kerry supporters, because she had on a bulletin board, a picture of President Bush, with his wife. She was told to remove that picture, along with a picture of the White House, a picture of the Bush dog, and The Declaration of Independence!
What is this world coming to?

[TraceZ]

I saw that too. It's pretty sad when a school teacher cannot even post a non-partisan photograph of the leader of the free world. I have never seen blinding hatred for a president like this before. It troubles me. I blame the liberal press for turning America against Bush. It is the spin they have put on absolutely everything that has twisted otherwise good americans into hate-mongers. If only people would just take a little time to read further and get the rest of the truth before just believing what the liberal media spins it into.

Here is a good article on Fox making the spin obvious. Check it out here

[ONLNTM5]

Yeah, it’s typical, liberal mumbo jumbo. Whenever they need something to say against the opposition, they just make something up. I can understand why Bush makes faces whenever debating Kerry.
We can thank Bill Clinton for turning a blind eye on the Oil For Food program, and allowing Saddam to embezzle billions of dollars. I saw something, whenever the Oil For Food scandal was first exposed, about one of Clinton’s people having something to do with it. I have no doubt that the Clintons were involved somehow. I would love to see both of them finally in handcuffs, headed for Federal prison. They somehow always seem to escape justice, though.

[Jay 02 TA ws6]

She was told to remove that picture, along with a picture of the White House, a picture of the Bush dog, and The Declaration of Independence!
What is this world coming to?

Liberals apparently don't like white houses, dogs, or the Declaration of Independence.

[Squat13]

Well on a personal note, after having an older brother comeback from the middle-east I will be voting against Bush. After the thing I have heard come from his mouth first hand, I Dont believe in the War he has created.

[TraceZ]

Well on a personal note, after having an older brother comeback from the middle-east I will be voting against Bush. After the thing I have heard come from his mouth first hand, I Dont believe in the War he has created.

"the war he has created"

This right here is my point. The liberal media has you brainwashed. This is exactly the kind of propoganda that Micheal Moore style extremists spout.

Bush did not create the war. All intelligence at the time of the invasion said he had WMD and was an immediate threat. Kerry approved it, The UN approved it. You cannot use information we have today to discredit what happenned then. Many of our allies would not help because they were in bed with Saddam (oil for food scandal) and actually working to undermine our efforts behind our back. If Gore or Kerry were president, France China and Russia would still not had helped us. The were taking *billions* in bribes from Saddam. Even if Saddam didnt have WMD, the reports show he soon would had because the sanctions would had failed due to the corruption.

It is not only totally unfair but also wrong to say Bush created the war. This is all rhetoric that the anti-war Howard Dean/Micheal Moore crowd made up early in the election and it is still lingering because the liberal press perpetuates it. It is time to let it go.

I'm not saying Kerry sucks. You can vote for whoever you want. Just make sure you at least understand what happenned in Iraq, and some basics about taxes and spending.

My wife is voting against Bush because the next justice he appoints to the supreme court will likely overturn Roe -vs- Wayde. I still love my wife!

[Jeff_in_Atl]

Bush supporters-Lets keep Bush in our thoughts and prayers during tonight’s debate with Kerry. The race is close, and he needs all of the help that he can get.

I saw on Fox news this morning, that a school teacher was suspended by Kerry supporters, because she had on a bulletin board, a picture of President Bush, with his wife. She was told to remove that picture, along with a picture of the White House, a picture of the Bush dog, and The Declaration of Independence!
What is this world coming to?

I'm in the middle of something or I would go look but I believe she also had a picture of Clinton, Bush sr, Reagan, Carter and a few more presidents on that board also. This looks even more like it is an anti Bush thing.

And how did they justify telling her to take down the Declaration Of Independence?

[ONLNTM5]

I am curious Squat13, what has your brother said (and thank God he made it back).

[gimp19]

There never was proof of WMD thats a fact.

[TraceZ]

There never was proof of WMD thats a fact.

So, what did Sadam use to kill the Curds?

Look, all intelligence at the time of attack said there were WMD. What was Bush supposed to do? Saddam was blocking our inspectors.

If we cannot inspect, and intelligence says there are WMD, you HAVE TO assume they exist and act accordingly.

To sit here today and say it was wrong to attack because there were no WMD is foolish. The best we can do at any given time is act on our best intelligence.

If the intelligence was failed, blame Clinton. He is the one that gutted the CIA.

[Jeff_in_Atl]

There never was proof of WMD thats a fact.

That is not a fact. That is fiction. 1 saran gas mortar and ~10 mustard gas shells. All banned WMD's found in Iraq. You can't choose to ignore something you don't like because it doesn't support you political feelings.

[TODD 2000 V6 CAMARO]

[QUOTE=TraceZ]So, what did Sadam use to kill the Curds?

Look, all intelligence at the time of attack said there were WMD. What was Bush supposed to do? Saddam was blocking our inspectors.

If we cannot inspect, and intelligence says there are WMD, you HAVE TO assume they exist and act accordingly.



Exactly! I will go a little different way with the drug dealer analogy used in the last thread: You ever watch the show Cops? What is always an officer's reaction when they ask a suspect if they can search the vehicle and the guy says no? Instantly the officer is almost sure there is something in the car that isn't supposed to be there. It is the same with Iraq. Sadaam wouldn't let the inspectors come in to investigate for all that time. "Do you have WMD's?" "NO" Can we take a look to substantiate this?" "NO" What the heck do you think? He was just shy about having outsiders in his country? he was hiding something! And thanks to France and the other countries he had in his pocket, he had plenty of time to dismantle/destroy and evidence he needed to.

[ONLNTM5]

The reason that I believe that there is increased terrorism in the world today:

1) After the first Gulf War, the “OIL FOR FOOD” program was enacted and imposed on Saddam Hussein by the United Nations.

2) Bill Clinton was elected president of the United States and along with the United Nations, he turned a blind eye to the enforcement of this program. (curious, huh?)

3) Corruption immediately began to take place, involving the officials of the United Nations in charge of the Oil for Food program. These individuals accepted kick-backs, in the millions of dollars to just “look the other way” while Saddam funneled billions of dollars through businesses that had ties to Al Qaeda. Some of this money was kicked back to Saddam, Al Qaeda, the United Nations officials, as well as France, Germany, and the Soviet Union (Putin). Note: France, Germany, and the Soviet Union would not join in the coalition of forces in Iraq, because of their illegal involvement with Saddam.

4) There are even some of Bill Clinton’s people who may have had connections to this corrupt activity ( I believe this is true).

A great deal of these terrorist are solely motivated by money. They provide a living for their families by conducting terrorists acts. How do they live and eat and pay their bills? How do they pay for terrorists activities? Life costs money and terrorist have to eat and live somewhere just like every one else. Take away their money, whether it be Oil for Food money, or whatever the source may be, and they will just have to get an honest job like everyone else. Taking Saddam out of power, put an end to the corrupt Oil for Food program, and put a stop to his support of suicide bombers in Israel, and put a stop to his Al Qaeda training camps, and his nuclear ambitions, and YES his WMD ambitions as well, and his mass murder of Iraqi people-whew! Just this morning they said on Fox, that they found another mass grave in Iraq, with hundreds of bodies, and they expect to find several thousand there. Some of the dead, were newborn babies, and small children still holding toys in their hands. We don’t need to allow this kind of evil to exist in our world if we can do anything about it. Evil breeds evil, and liberty breeds liberty. I prefer liberty.

[Dean80Z28]

I find it funny that so many people quote Fox News.

Fox News is VERY right-wing, and Pro-Bush. Just to let you guys know...

I also will never vote for Bush.. sorry guys. We are not the world police, and this has gotten out of hand. Just my opinion.

After having friends in this war... hmm.. no way.

[Jay 02 TA ws6]

If the war was the only thing to base my decision on during this election, I wouldn't be voting for Bush either.

Wake up guys, there is a lot more to this election than how you feel about the war.