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  • My 1986 Pontiac Firebird 2.8L Six Banger

    Hey everybody Iam new to the forums, iam 16 and I recently bought a 86 Firebird wich iam in love with. Iam hooked on F-Body's and have the only real american performance car at my school. For now I got roughly $1500 Canadian to sink into the car and I was wondering what is the best route to take peroformance wise. Thanks for eny help you can offer.
    1989 Camaro IROC-Z 5.0 TPI Auto (Away For Winter)
    -Flowmaster With 3 Inch SS Tips
    1989 Plymouth Reliant 2.5 TBI Auto
    -65,000 Original KM And No Rust Beater

  • #2
    Sorry to burst your bubble , but the 2.8 V6 is not really a performance engine. There is no direction to take it peformance wise, the market is very small for the 2.8L. Sell it and get a V8 fbody, or pull the 6 and get a donor 350 like L98 if am not mistaken .
    1993 TA SOLD





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    • #3
      he's got a point. my 84 firebird was a 2.8L v6...it was fun, but not what i was looking for...now the car is undergoing a pro-street makeover (not something i suggest)...but a simple 350 with a 650cfm edelbrock carb, and manifold with some shortie style headers will give you probably what your looking for, and if you do it right, the $1500 could get you movin. around here i can pick up a running 350 out of a junker for $75 all the time and the carb runs around 300 and the manifold 200...headers are sometimes 300-400 but you can do it... good luck

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      • #4
        I once converted an 86 2.8 camaro to a V8. It was a big mistake. The pile of parts required is just too much. You have to replace everything

        complete engine with mounts
        fuel delivery (intake, carb or FI, fuel lines, pump)
        spark (distributor, cap, rotor, rires, plugs)
        radiator, hoses & water pump
        transmission, flexplate, starter, crossmember
        belts brackets and pulleys
        front suspension springs for heavier V8 (the V6 springs will sag too much)
        complete exhaust including crossover pipe and manifolds / headers
        set of factory guages with tach for V8, oil pressure sender for 60# guage
        positraction rear end

        I would recommend enjoying your car as it is. When you have the means to get one with either a 3800 V6 or V8, upgrade at that point. The real power is in the V8. Save your money and do it right at a later time. You could spend thousands on your current car and still be slow. Also, your current car will never return your investment.
        Tracy
        2002 C5 M6 Convertible
        1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
        Current Mods:
        SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids

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        • #5
          You know I always tell this to people but, Look for a GN motor, can you say turbo!
          1967 VW Bug 2.3L Ford SVO Inline 4 w/ Turbo, Sand-Drag VW Trans Axle, Race this Import.
          2001 Dodge Ram 1500 Totally Stock

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lappin
            Hey everybody Iam new to the forums, iam 16 and I recently bought a 86 Firebird wich iam in love with. Iam hooked on F-Body's and have the only real american performance car at my school. For now I got roughly $1500 Canadian to sink into the car and I was wondering what is the best route to take peroformance wise. Thanks for eny help you can offer.

            Hey man welcome!! I have the same car and I have been looking for the past 3 years to do so something with it. Unfortunatly there is really nothing at all in the aftermarket for this particular model. The most you can do is build your own CAI (search the forum, I already asked about it so there should be something on it) and a cat back exhaust. This will free up a little bit and maybey give you a few horses. But like they, said there is nothing you can do short of replacing the engine which is a serious PITA!!! Nobody even makes any turbos for this car. I talked with one of the NOPI guys here in town and they couldn't think of anything. I'm not sure but it might be possible to "aphro engineer" some mods. Get creative bro!!

            Have fun!!!
            86 Firebird, Just a lowly 6 banger, sold
            Plans for an '02 WS6 are in the mix for 2008 (after I'm out of the army)

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            • #7
              The only thing i can think of is to find those GM "universal turbo."It sounds really weird i know, but they do make them, i saw them on Horsepower(the show on spike tv) and it isnt as proficient as a regular turbo but it will up your hp. Other than that i can only restate what everyone else is saying and get another engine. You can buy a rebuilt 350 for about 1200. Look into it. and have fun!!
              89 305 TBI Camaro RS

              http://members.cardomain.com/camarodude89

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              • #8
                How about a really good tune up and a wet nitrous kit?
                96 Camaro Z28/A4,Vortech elbow,Moroso CAI,Flowmaster.Addco PHR,LCA,160* Stat,pcmforless,1LE Driveshaft,1LE A/C delete pulley,1LE Front sway bar,Strut brace,sub frames, LT4 knock module,255 lph pump,Cutout,

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                • #9
                  2.8....hmmm, it's storked version of my 3.1. Man, the 3.4 version is a stroked version of my old 3.1!

                  I had a 3.1 in the day...140HP 180FTLBS...not fast..but it got me around and it was a workhorse...

                  I think the 2.8 is rated 140HP and 170FTLBs...you can fun with the car. but if you want to go fast...don't bother too much with it...it won't hold up.

                  use it for now...and save your $$$ for something more serious.

                  Christopher Teng

                  1999 · A4 · 3.73's · Auburn LSD · Whisper Lid · K&N · Pacesetter Headers/Y-pipe
                  Magnaflow Cat & Catback · MSD Coils/Wires · Bosch +4 Plugs · EGR Bypass
                  B&M SuperCooler · 160* Stat · Descreened MAF · SLP CAI · BMR STB & SFC
                  Strano Sways · Eibach Springs · Bilstein HD Shocks · Hawk-Pads · Brembo Blanks
                  Speedlines · Nitto 555s · Texas Speed Mail Tune

                  Lots of Weight Savings · Stubby Antenna · Corbeau TRS · Zaino · 273K

                  F-Body Dirty Dozen

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                  • #10
                    I pretty much agree with all the statements. Use the 6 to get ya around for now, and save up that $$$ for an 8. Best bang for the buck IMO
                    black 95 t/a, a4, beefed up tranny w/ higher stall converter, transgo shift kit, trans temp gauge, trans cooler, richmond 3.73's, loudmouth, hypertech programmer, 160 thermo, descreened maf, TB bypass and airfoil, trick flow intake elbow, underdrive pulleys, moroso cai, edelbrock panhard rod, bmr stb, slp sfc's, fiberglass firehawk hood, hawk pads, taylor wires, ngk plugs, royal purple fluids,...and hopefully more to come

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                    • #11
                      I also have a 2.8 86 red/silver firebird. Dont push the motor to hard as they have a tendancy to throw rods, due to a poor rod bearing design. Preformance wise there arent alot of things to buy for it, I have looked back when that was my main car(now wrote off due to a rearending by a careless driver). A free flowing exhaust will help and you can do all kinds of porting and polishing of the heads and intake to gain some HP. It is possible to swap a TPI engine into the car if you get all of the components. I am in Alberta, and welcome to the boards.

                      Eric W.

                      89 Firebird Formula WS6
                      Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
                      6.2L/382.97 ci
                      Custom PROM Dyno tuned
                      WCT-5 speed
                      BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
                      Boss MS 18" Rims
                      Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
                      Custom Dual exhaust
                      1LE upgrade
                      Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
                      In a constant state of upgrade!

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for all the info everybody, ive decided to sell my Firebird to my cousin who only needs a car to get back and forth to work, and Iam looking into an 1986 Camero IROC on the autotrader for about $950. With eny luck soon ill be able to enjoy the world of V8 F-Bodies
                        1989 Camaro IROC-Z 5.0 TPI Auto (Away For Winter)
                        -Flowmaster With 3 Inch SS Tips
                        1989 Plymouth Reliant 2.5 TBI Auto
                        -65,000 Original KM And No Rust Beater

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