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  • Guys with lowered cars, step in here.....

    I've got a chance to trade some parts for lowering springs, so here is my question.......

    Once the drop was done, did you trim the lower air deflector to gain clearance over driveway curbs and such? If so, how did it affect cooling?

  • #2
    I totally removed mine. The car would run 10 deg warmer sometimes but with the 160 deg thermo it never over heated, ever.
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    • #3
      isnt there part of it thats just solid at the bottom ?? it seems like it any way.

      and i know this is off topic but my license plate is bolted to that, could that be the reason my car tends to get warmer than usual ??
      -Nick-
      95 A4 Z28

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      • #4
        When the front of mine was down 1.8", I left the air dam alone. It scraped, but doesn't damage anything. When it was removed completely, at stock ride height, the coolant temp would rise seriously at high speeds - and that with a low temp t'stat, fans set for 195degF max, and a huge Griffen radiator. I wouldn't recommend removing it completely under any circumstances.

        I "found" an old picture of the car when it was lowered....

        Fred

        381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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        • #5
          the dam is very flexable...when i lowered it the would scrap hills and bumps...but it's not solid like a piece of metal, its really flexable and take some abuse...I didn't remove it nor will I, I've heard horror stories of car over heating...

          Christopher Teng

          1999 · A4 · 3.73's · Auburn LSD · Whisper Lid · K&N · Pacesetter Headers/Y-pipe
          Magnaflow Cat & Catback · MSD Coils/Wires · Bosch +4 Plugs · EGR Bypass
          B&M SuperCooler · 160* Stat · Descreened MAF · SLP CAI · BMR STB & SFC
          Strano Sways · Eibach Springs · Bilstein HD Shocks · Hawk-Pads · Brembo Blanks
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Injuneer
            the front of mine was down 1.8", I left the air dam alone. It scraped, but doesn't damage anything.
            Anything else scrape or rub? I sure like the look of that drop, just not liking the idea of putting the chin against a curb.

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            • #7
              My hawks Bilstein susp is about as low as you can get (the equivalent of cutting some coils off the stock Z28 susp and removing the bump-stops )

              The tire to the fender lip was on average 1.5 -1.75 inches as this was difficult to measure...

              Ground to fender lip measurments
              Passenger Front - 26 7/16"
              Driver Front - 26 5/8"
              Passenger Rear - 26 9/16"
              Driver Rear - 26 3/8"


              After 3 years the stock bilstein suspension settled even more. I have no problem with leaving the front air dam there, as it was from the factory

              The air dam is very flexible, and besides, that is where my front license plate "GRRRRR" is mounted. (kerms Idea)

              I say leave it as it is )
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              • #8
                Wow fred that looks perfect
                -Nick-
                95 A4 Z28

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                • #9
                  I heard that LT might hit on lowered cars.
                  Richard Harvey Jr.
                  '94 T/A LT1 (stock) - SOLD

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                  • #10
                    Mine scrapes, all depends on how fast I am going and at what angle. I personally don't care, its just plastic! Only other thing with lowering the car, is the lower control arm relocation brackets are not necessary, but real close to being necessary. What a difference they make, even on a non-lowered car.
                    2006 GTO Impulse Blue Metallic, Blue Leather Interior
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                    • #11
                      Fred, any alignment problems with that kind of drop? What shocks were you using?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Joe 1320
                        Fred, any alignment problems with that kind of drop? What shocks were you using?
                        Not Fred as you know. You might notice some "bump steer" after you lower it. My Mustang did it bad. I'm not sure how noticeable it will be with a F-Body. The stiffer the shocks, the less it will be. Here is one way to fix it.
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                        1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

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                        • #13
                          That was the result I got with the HAL/QA1 12-way adjustable shocks and the Eibach Pro-Kit springs. I thought I was very careful to set the lower spring seats at the same height as stock, but the front end dropped 1.8" - that is what is shown in the picture. The back only dropped a little more than 1", so it had a "rake" - looked good, but to me the front was LOW. I decided to leave it that way for a while.

                          I got the alignment specs from someone on this board:

                          Camber: -1deg
                          Caster: +4deg
                          Toe-in: 0.10

                          I had it aligned to those specs at one of the few local shops that would even let a lowered car in the door. Handled like it was on rails. It was just the front dragging over all the speed bumps and going up into "humped" driveways that I didn't like. The back of the car also has a sort of "buckboard" up and down herly-jerkey sort of feel, kind of like a slammed S10.

                          Eventually I put the Eibach Drag Launch springs in the back. I bought the HAL drag springs from the front, but didn't put the front ones on - I just raised the front back up using the adjusters on the front shocks. I still have the Pro-Kits on the front. I'm for Steve Spohn to come up with his tubular K-member and A-arms so I can completely rebuild the front end at one time - maybe this winter.
                          Fred

                          381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Injuneer
                            The back of the car also has a sort of "buckboard" up and down herly-jerkey sort of feel.
                            I'm hoping to avoid that... Intrax advertises a progressive rate and many people recommend them for their ride quality. I got lucky and traded some parts for them.

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                            • #15
                              im putting in h&r's with a 1.25" drop and the only thing im worried about is the pacesetter y-pipe....i have to try and wiggle it (the pipe) closer to the floor and learn how to go over bumps on angles.....
                              pewter 99 TA...t-tops, leather, m6, lid, longtubes back, gears, spec clutch, spohn suspension

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