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[beachbum86]

The recording studios back in those days did not have all those fancy electronics in them. I have seen both new and old studios (I record at a studio in FL, all the new fancy stuff in it, but I like the old ones) and I have noticed that the Old studios DO record a much better sound. I believe that there is one main reason for this. The new studios have all this fancy digital recording stuff, which means the sounds are being "processed" and then recorded. The old stuff JUST recorded. So you got the true sound of the instrument instead of some computer recording what it thinks the instrument should sound like. Just listen to the difference in guitar amps, tube vs. electronic. MUCH better sound I think.

My dad still has his Technics from 1973 (reciever, speakers, and turntable) and that thing rocks. The most versatile stereo system I've heard. The sounds that come out of those speakers with a good vinyl track is awesome. He actually hooked a CD player to it and that sounds amazing too.

[ONLNTM5]

The recording studios back in those days did not have all those fancy electronics in them. I have seen both new and old studios (I record at a studio in FL, all the new fancy stuff in it, but I like the old ones) and I have noticed that the Old studios DO record a much better sound. I believe that there is one main reason for this. The new studios have all this fancy digital recording stuff, which means the sounds are being "processed" and then recorded. The old stuff JUST recorded. So you got the true sound of the instrument instead of some computer recording what it thinks the instrument should sound like. Just listen to the difference in guitar amps, tube vs. electronic. MUCH better sound I think.

My dad still has his Technics from 1973 (reciever, speakers, and turntable) and that thing rocks. The most versatile stereo system I've heard. The sounds that come out of those speakers with a good vinyl track is awesome. He actually hooked a CD player to it and that sounds amazing too.

Thats very interesting and thanks for clearing that up. I knew there had to be a reason

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

I agree that digital recording causes a small loss of sound data, but when CDs first came out you could really tell that they sounded superior on the radio. I never did a live CD to Vinyl comparo, but I have heard that Vinyl has better sound quality - it might be a function of how many bits and the sampling rate the A/D converter has in the digital recording/playback system. Only problem there is that they made te Vinyl records so cheap that about 25% of them were scratchy right out of the sleeve when new, and if they were good, it was just a matter of time before it got scratchy (just think about the diamond stylus scraping away in it's little groove) so you had to tape it right away, and the tapes would stretch & hiss and leave deposits on the heads and needed Dolby processing which then muted some of the sound. Yeah, I know all about the old recording media and wasted a lot of time on it. You can buy a new CD player for what you spent on a magnetic phono cartridge, too. IMHO a good DDD recording sounds superior to old technology, but an AAD recording might not.

[beachbum86]

CD compared to Vinyl....

If you think about the process in which the music is read on each medium you'll see the differences. With a CD (being digital) you have a computer that reads the cd with a laser. That means that the computer must convert light to electric and then to audio. There will be some amount of "data" loss in that transition. With vinyl, its purly analog. It goes right to the electric into audio. There was a noticeable difference in the early years of CD due to the quality of the DAC's (digital audio converter). Now a days the DAC's are much better and are more capable of reproducing the sound much better. But it still comes down to how the CD was recorded.

You guys should check out the SACD (super-audio CD) and the DVD audio music. With those recordings, the producers have actually taken the time to record the music as close to the orginal sound as possible. And if you have a good stereo, with surround sound and all that Jazz, you will feel like your in the concert hall. Truley amazing.

One of my buddies here is really into this stuff and has a home theater system that is valued around $12K(not including the TV). With a DVD audio album of classical (1812 oeveture, my favorite) music, OH MY GOD is all I can say! If you have the money to buy the stuff thats out there, you will be amazed at what the technology of today can do.

[wolfdogs]

i see now. what a cutie!!!!!!!!!

[lt14mla]

I have one of those old technics its hooked up to my computer. Its just an amazing reciever. I got some nice 4 RCA speakers hooked up to it for some nice surround.
As far as old tubes sounding better your competly correct. Its the same way for guitar amps. Nice old glass tubes were the best. lol

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

CD compared to Vinyl....
With a CD (being digital) you have a computer that reads the cd with a laser. That means that the computer must convert light to electric and then to audio. There will be some amount of "data" loss in that transition.

I tend to disagree with this part of your statement. The laser just detects the dimples in the foil which it does very well or else a computer would not be able to use data from an optical disk. Granted that audio CD readers are not required to be as precise as the ones used in computers where they do a lot of redundancy checking and error correcting, but most of the loss from any original signal is in the A/D and D/A conversion, not the transmission of the recorded data. Unless you are driving on a bumpy road

[beachbum86]

I see your point Kevin. I stand corrected. I must say that I am no expert in this field. I just think I have a farely good understanding of the subject. I know some things to be true and somethings I'm still a little shakey on. Oh Well

But tube guitar amps are the best... HANDS DOWN!!!

Only if I knew how my car worked like I know computers and SATCOM systems... I'd be unstoppable!!!

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

No Prob Bro!