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  • #1

    engine sludge.....

    this is something that just doesnt happen when you change your oil correctly land timely... but........

    here lately..in our fleet...weve' been getting quite a few sludged up engines. now......... they are well within warranty...and coencidence?? they are ford..trucks! ford wont cover the rebuild! i had the maint. records pulled and the oil was changed ever 6k.........

    anybody hear of this going on elsewhere? oil type was Penzoil in this case... i know thats a parifin based oil....but still........

    The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

    2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

    Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
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    sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.
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    Can't say we've had that specific problem, but we did have problems with Ford and my mom's Ranger. Ever since she got it, the brakes would squeel every time you pressed the pedal. She kept taking it in and the stealer said it was fine. Finally her brakes were on the verge of going, she took it to another stealer and found out the rotors and calipers were shot. Put enough pressure on them, they'll crack. That's what the first dealer, the one that said the brakes were fine, did after the second dealer and my mom went after them. Good luck man.
    Steve
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    • #3
      Toyota had a big issue a few years back due to oil sludging problems with some of their 4 cylinder motors. Even though Toyota claimed that the vast majority of their investigation proved to be the oil gelling problem was caused by improper maintenance, they still continue to pay for all of their customers problems.

      My mom had a Celica GT and when the TSB came out, she took her car to a local Toyota dealer and they replaced everything at zero cost to her. I think she was guilty of being a oil change procrastinator.

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      • #4
        I dont think Ive ever driven any vehicle longer than 6500 Km between oil changes. I just laught when people have sludge problems and never change their oil. I could probably go 7000-8000 KM on full synthetic, but it doesnt save that much money.

        Eric W.

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        • #5
          we are getting the old "you let your vehicles idle too long" poop. FBI, DEA, Homeland Sec., etc....sit and sit with engines running all the time....

          well thats bull....thats not what causes sludge... short trips builds condensation, not hot engines....

          we are going to fight ford on this one.... hey...... we have almost 200,000 vehicles in the fleet now.... they dont want to play.....maybe we wont buy.....

          The Goldens: Reno and Rocky

          2008 C6, M6, LS3, Corsa Extreme C/B, (it flys) & 2008 Yukon loaded (Titanic), 03 Ford Focus..everydaydriver.

          Wolfdog Rescue Resources, Inc.:http://www.wrr-inc.org
          Home Page: http://www.renokeo.com
          sold: 97 Firehawk, 97 Comp T/A, 2005 GTO, 2008 Solstice GXP turbo.

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          • #6
            My grandfather bought a 2004 F150 Lariet and he was told he must buy oil and a filter from a dealer and keep all reciepts if he wants to ever have it covered by the warrntey.
            1994 Firebird Formula, M6, Fan switch, 160 thermostat, Pacesetter LT headers, Morosso CAI, TB bypass, True duals.

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            • #7
              Hey wolfman.. If you want a second opinion. My Uncle is the lead truck technician down your way at Purvis Ford in Fredericksburg. He Might be able to help you
              96 Camaro Z28/A4,Vortech elbow,Moroso CAI,Flowmaster.Addco PHR,LCA,160* Stat,pcmforless,1LE Driveshaft,1LE A/C delete pulley,1LE Front sway bar,Strut brace,sub frames, LT4 knock module,255 lph pump,Cutout,

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              • #8
                Ken......I would also contact Penzoil on the problem in addition to fighting Ford. Another thing about Ford (and Honda) that I would be concerned about is the fact their recommended oil is now 5W-20W. I would be real concerned about that in terms of engine longetivity if that's what you are using in the fleet. Alledgedly it was done to increase CAFE ratings. Here are a few links you might want to look at. Pay special attention in that second link to the "usefull life" of engines using this oil.

                http://www.smartsynthetics.com/artic..._and_honda.htm

                http://autorepair.about.com/library/faqs/bl804a.htm
                Dave S
                2000 Black Camaro SS

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