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**88Cam** · 01-04-2005, 09:46 PM

oh yeah its an 88 Z28 with 305 TBI with a T-5 trans

**RocKin1967** · 01-05-2005, 02:52 AM

dude that is the craziest thing i have ever heard in my life......
well try getting a buddy to turn the car on while u look under the hood and see if u see anything screwed up, might help. hope sum1 has an answer for you

**Joe 1320** · 01-05-2005, 06:44 AM

It is possible that the throttle blade has disconnected itself from the shaft. Although unlikely, it is possible.

the part that seems odd is... if the car was idling, how did you strike a pole? Especially with enough force to knock the front end out of alignment. You had to be going faster than what you admitted. Any time I've seen a tire "blow" was from high speed combined with a breech of the tire or seriously high air pressure while seating the bead on a tire machine. Heck, even if you put a knife in the sidewall of a tire, air merely escapes.

Tires don't simply blow up.

**TraceZ** · 01-05-2005, 11:29 AM

If the motor is red-lining that means air is going through the throttle bores. They have to be open somehow, either jammed, stuck, or broken.

If the throttle blades were closed, the engine could not rev because no air could get into it. There is no vacuum leak big enough to redline the motor.

The only times I have seen tires blow out was due to excessive heat from underinflation, overloading and/or cornering to hard. I've never heard of a tire just exploding while driving normally if it has proper pressure and is not overloaded. Thats not to say it can't happen, but it would be rare.

**azkkn** · 01-05-2005, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by TraceZ

If the motor is red-lining that means air is going through the throttle bores. They have to be open somehow, either jammed, stuck, or broken.

If the throttle blades were closed, the engine could not rev because no air could get into it. There is no vacuum leak big enough to redline the motor.

The only times I have seen tires blow out was due to excessive heat from underinflation, overloading and/or cornering to hard. I've never heard of a tire just exploding while driving normally if it has proper pressure and is not overloaded. Thats not to say it can't happen, but it would be rare.

sounds like some one jumped on the gas, and the throttle stuck wide open, lost control and slammed a pole. either way, lile tracez said, some thing has to be holding the throttle open.

**88Cam** · 01-05-2005, 06:03 PM

I wish I could say I did jam on the gas and was flooring it through the parking lot but I wasn't. My dad bought pos used tires awhile ago and this car is my back up so I havent bought new ones. the tires just suck alot. This is the second time it happened, the first it put me on a median but that time I was going 40 and it was wet so I figured maybe I hit somethin sharp. I was idling, foot off the gas and it may have hit somethin or may not have but I just know the tire blew and it pulled me a foot to the left and my fender scraped the pole and the rim got caught by the pole which pulled it out of alignment. I was already close to the pole when the tire blew so its not like it pulled me way out of control or anything. Also everything looks completely normal under the hood so I don't know why its redlining.

**88Cam** · 01-05-2005, 06:04 PM

and the throttle isn't held open

**Joe 1320** · 01-05-2005, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by 88Cam

and the throttle isn't held open

have you bothered to disconnect the air intake and physically observe the condition of the throttle blade(s)? If not, you couldn't possibly tell if the throttle is open. How much mechanical ability do you have?

**fastTa** · 01-06-2005, 01:05 AM

Originally posted by Joe 1320

have you bothered to disconnect the air intake and physically observe the condition of the throttle blade(s)?

I think signs point to no. It is hard to imagine someone only traveling 3-5 mph at idle and hitting a wheel so hard on a pole that it is completely toed out.

**TraceZ** · 01-06-2005, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by 88Cam

and the throttle isn't held open

it is impossible for the motor to redline with the throttle blades closed.

**88Cam** · 01-06-2005, 09:26 PM

plenty, I've rebuilt my tranny in one of my 88s and built an 85 truck from ground up using a totaled 94. Along with rebuilding my gfs 79 camaro. Its startin to seem like you guys dont know anything. I don't even know why I asked. Quit thinkin inside of the box. I like how this site was 2 years ago when it was worth somethin to me, now it seems like the only people who post now are critizising and wanna bes. this is pathetic beyond belief. if all you have to say is something thats critical why do you even bother posting over and over, leave it open for someone who knows what they're talking about.

**Joe 1320** · 01-06-2005, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by 88Cam

plenty, I've rebuilt my tranny in one of my 88s and built an 85 truck from ground up using a totaled 94. Along with rebuilding my gfs 79 camaro. Its startin to seem like you guys dont know anything. I don't even know why I asked. Quit thinkin inside of the box. I like how this site was 2 years ago when it was worth somethin to me, now it seems like the only people who post now are critizising and wanna bes. this is pathetic beyond belief. if all you have to say is something thats critical why do you even bother posting over and over, leave it open for someone who knows what they're talking about.

With that kind of supposed knowledge and your 17 years of life experience, why are you asking questions?

Before I lock this thread, I'm going to post a response that will be worth something. In order for an engine to be at redline, it takes 3 things. Air, fuel and spark. It also takes metered air.... the computer has to see air entering the engine and add the appropriate amount of fuel. Unmetered air like a vacuum leak means it will be excessively lean and the engine dies. The bottom line is that the throttle must be open or no metered air enters the engine and thereby no fuel either. We're talking fuel injection here. The computer must be adding fuel to match the metered airflow.

The knowledge of some of the members is not to be toyed with. If you aren't satisfied, then don't post any followup. Incidently, one hellova way to introduce yourself to the forum.

Edit..... after going back and reading all your posts since the time you registered, you have contributed little if anything. As a matter of fact, you required help from the forum on all the work that it appears you've done. Normally I wouldn't even respond, but your attitude is a slap in the face to the forum. Your account has been locked for one week to give you an opportunity to re-think about your comments.

**Injuneer** · 01-07-2005, 09:13 AM

I read the original post and thought it was a joke or something after the 1st two sentences:

ok so I was driving through the parking lot idleing and my front left blew and made my car's front left fender scrape up against a light pole. the Pole caught the wheel and pulled it so now I have one pointing one way and the other pointing an oposite.

When you start off with a statement like that, its hard for anyone to take you seriously. "The dog ate my homework....." Didn't inspire me to even attempt to help.

Other people tried to help. You might have explained the way you determined "the throttle isn't held open". What did you do beyond pop the hood and take a casual look at the engine? Did you remove the inlet ducting and check the throttle blades? Was there any physical damage to the engine compartment caused by the pole attacking your car? Was it "redlining" 100% of the time, or was the problem intermittent?

Some small sign that you were working to solve the problem would probably have gone a long way toward helping people want to help you.

Just a little constructive guidance on "what went wrong"... with this thread. Think about it.

**wolfdogs** · 01-07-2005, 10:42 AM

im with injuneer, i thought this was a joke at first.

since you seem to have quite a few blow outs, you need to read my "controlling a blow out" thread....

http://www.f-body.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9051

the only way a blow out at such a slow speed could throw you that far sideways is if you slammed on the brakes when it happened.

you got pretty snotty with some realy great folks here, dude. Please don't do that again if you come back. I might not be as nice as Joe.

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