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    Alright, i've narrowed it down to 5 possible candidates as to what my next car will be. After i sell my car i'll have around $6,500- 7,000 to play around with.

    1. My 88 Formula. The body is in excellent shape. I could set it up with a nice junkyard special 350 and swap in a T-5 or a T-56. With that i'd probably have enough to do a really nice audio set up. I already have the car so it would just be a matter of paying for all the aftermarket stuff. Needs tires desperately but aside from that, it's a solid car.

    2. A black, 6 speed, LT1 Camaro. If i can find one with t-tops than it's just that much better. I really like these cars and a lot of the time, you can find one that already has some work done to it.

    3. A TPI Vette. I don't know how far $7,000 will get me with a late eighties C-4 but sometimes they pop up for cheap around here.

    4. A black, 6 speed, LT1 Formula/ Trans Am. Maybe if my car was black and didn't have the exhaust done, it would have grown on me more. I love the newer style WS6 hood and i think it looks best on black cars. If i can find a cheap LT1 bird, i'll take it.

    5. A 98+ 5 speed, v-6 Firebird. I've been tossing this idea around for a while. If i got one of these, i'd slap a WS6 hood on it and then some suspension modifications right away. Eventually, i'd want to set it up like the turbo 89 T/A though. Get a nice turbo under the hood. Get something capable of putting out and handling a lot of boost but only run maybe 6PSI until i upgraded the rest of the car. The stock six banger tranny, rear, pistons, connecting rods, pushrods, etc, could probably handle that low level of boost. Once i got enough money to upgrade everything though, run something like 17PSI and make the car really scream. I know a lot of people think that this is stupid as with the money i'd spend on this type of set up, i could buy an LS1 that already has gobs of power. I like the idea though. I like having something different. It would also be like a regular grocery getter unless it was boosting. I could get fantastic gas mileage, and have a regular daily driver when i was in non-boost mode and then when the boost kicked in, i'd have a nice amount of power. A V-6 would also save me a fortune on insurance. From what i've come to understand, turbo cars are very easy to upgrade and squeeze more power out of. I already asked Joe about this set up. He suggested an auto so i could be boosting as i launch and as the car shifts. That's an awesome idea but i don't know if i could ever go back to an auto. I really enjoy driving manual.

    I need suggestions and opinions. I like all of these ideas pretty much equally.
    Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
    SOLD- Kinda miss it
    94 Del Sol VTEC: 27 city/ 33 highway, knee deep in slowness
    SOLD- Good riddance!
    2006 Ford Fusion: 2.3, 5 speed, could run 15lbs of boost with a 150 shot and it'd still be slow

  • #2
    Wow, I don't think I could decide. Those are all great options. If you keep the same car, you might want to buy a crate GM Performance or equivalent engine. Dyno proven and ready to bolt in.
    LS15 Power! Another LSx engine coming soon.

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    • #3
      I'd say keep you 88 Formula, but to be honest I'm partial to 3rd gens, and I love see old cars look like new again .
      1991 Chevy Camaro RS (Is it plum or purple?)
      Engine: 305 TBI (L03)
      Trans: TH700R4
      Mods: Some

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      • #4
        All are tough decisions...but i say either keep your formula or go with the black LT1 T/A...im partial to them though
        black 95 t/a, a4, beefed up tranny w/ higher stall converter, transgo shift kit, trans temp gauge, trans cooler, richmond 3.73's, loudmouth, hypertech programmer, 160 thermo, descreened maf, TB bypass and airfoil, trick flow intake elbow, underdrive pulleys, moroso cai, edelbrock panhard rod, bmr stb, slp sfc's, fiberglass firehawk hood, hawk pads, taylor wires, ngk plugs, royal purple fluids,...and hopefully more to come

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        • #5


          Need I say more?
          Steve
          79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
          87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
          93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
          http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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          • #6
            Come on guys, i need more than 4 opinions! A representative at STS told me that it would be around $4,000 for the turbo. He said i would be using the turbo built for the LS1. I really like all of these ideas but unfortunately i didn't hit lotto back when it was at 142 million so i can only do one. Come on guys!
            Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
            SOLD- Kinda miss it
            94 Del Sol VTEC: 27 city/ 33 highway, knee deep in slowness
            SOLD- Good riddance!
            2006 Ford Fusion: 2.3, 5 speed, could run 15lbs of boost with a 150 shot and it'd still be slow

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            • #7
              I vote for the 88 formula, I may be biased but I like the formula, no ground effects and they make a nice sleeper as most people dont know a formula from a base firebird, unless it says formula on the door anyways they are a fun car and cheap to work on and there are millions of parts, plus almost all suspension parts that you will replace in the rear can be moved over to a 4th gen when and if you want to get rid of the 88.

              Eric W.

              89 Firebird Formula WS6
              Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
              6.2L/382.97 ci
              Custom PROM Dyno tuned
              WCT-5 speed
              BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
              Boss MS 18" Rims
              Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
              Custom Dual exhaust
              1LE upgrade
              Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
              In a constant state of upgrade!

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              • #8
                For 4 grand I could rebuild the v6 with forged pistons, nitried hardened crank, etc... Upgrade the fuel system with 750cc injectors. Get a stand alone system. There's about 3 grand right there. Then with the remaining 3 grand... We get you a nice turbo. Screw kits, they're over-priced! Get the turbo, make some IC piping, get a nice intercooler, bam you're set. Not all that hard to turbo a car, it just takes a lot of time and $$. Maybe have the stock pcm tuned instead of going stand-alone?

                I say keep your current car man. It's sweet. You will miss it. And going from a V8 to a V6...

                I think Steve's post summed it up best. If you're gonna get rid of your car, it's gotta be for a LT1 camaro!!
                97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

                01 Honda CBR600 F4i-Two bro's,Corbins,SS brake lines

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                • #9
                  I'd say if your gonna pay for the sports car insurance make sure you get the sports car power. If not.... don't throw your money away. If you want to save monthly money i would suggest gettin a 4 banger to zip around in. As far as V-8 f-bodies go.... 96 or 97 black T/A.... but them again I guess i have to say I am a lil biased myself.

                  But then again....

                  A Black C4 with ZR-1's on it would be sweet.
                  1997 6-spd WS6 Trans Am

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ws6drbob
                    I'd say if your gonna pay for the sports car insurance make sure you get the sports car power.

                    A Black C4 with ZR-1's on it would be sweet.
                    A V-6 compared to a V-8 would be much much cheaper on insurance. That's why i was going to stick with a stock 6 for a while and then turbo charge it. If an Eclipse can make gobs of power with a tiny 4 banger, a 3.8 would make a ton of power also. Even if i just got a 3.8, ported the heads, gears, set it up with a nice camshaft and maybe stroked it, it would be real powerful. Could probably compete with an LT1. Slap a turbo on that and it would send my T/A away with it's tail between it's legs.

                    I'd love a C-4 but there are a some major problems.

                    1. I've heard that TPI isn't a good set up from a few reliable sources so that makes me kinda iffy.
                    2. All of the ones around here that would sell anywhere near my price range have 120,000+ miles on them.
                    3. Not fond of most colors and black is rare and finally.......
                    4. They are all freakin auto's around here! The ratio of auto's to 6 speed's that i've seen in the paper is probably 7:1.
                    Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
                    SOLD- Kinda miss it
                    94 Del Sol VTEC: 27 city/ 33 highway, knee deep in slowness
                    SOLD- Good riddance!
                    2006 Ford Fusion: 2.3, 5 speed, could run 15lbs of boost with a 150 shot and it'd still be slow

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                    • #11
                      Dude, you can pick up an early 4th gen for cheap then take the rest of the money on mods. If you want a newer 4th Gen, get a rolling chassis, get a Buick turbo-6 motor, good 700R4 and have fun with it . I vote for an early 4th Gen., either Z or TA, only in black .
                      Steve
                      79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
                      87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
                      93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
                      http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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                      • #12
                        Here's my problem with the 88 Formula- since i not only lack an engine hoist/ engine stand/hands on experience and knowledge, i'd have to get the parts i wanted and then drop it off with my buddy Nick to swap everything. I doubt he'd do it for free so it might end up costing more than i really want to spend. I'd love to go to a junkyard and find a wrecked LT1 or LS1 (although that sight would crush me inside ) and have a field day. I'd drop an LT1, T-56, 4th gen interior in that thing so rediculously fast that well... you get the point. Installing it would be the problem. As of right now, i still have to sell the car (when my grandpa sells his 99 Grand Marquis, he's buying my car)so i guess whatever comes first as i can't go forever without a car. I'll be checking the local newspaper and Special Interest religiously for a while.

                        Seeing as how i'm going to end up with another LT1 only this time, it will be a black one, is there any kind of exhaust or exhaust set up that i can install that will flow well but at the same time be as close to Dead Silent as possible? I don't like unnecessary attention from the boys in blue or the local racing crowd so i want as little sound coming from my exhaust as possible. I eventually want to install headers but loud exhaust bothers me a lot so that might not work out too well. Thanks again guys.
                        Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
                        SOLD- Kinda miss it
                        94 Del Sol VTEC: 27 city/ 33 highway, knee deep in slowness
                        SOLD- Good riddance!
                        2006 Ford Fusion: 2.3, 5 speed, could run 15lbs of boost with a 150 shot and it'd still be slow

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                        • #13
                          If you don't like a loud exhaust, then headers may not be right for you. As for a silent but good exhaust, the SLP Cat Back system is pretty quiet but good from what I hear. Here's the link...

                          http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...19&BIG=31019-1 for the 93-95 for single cat cars

                          http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...18&BIG=31018-1 for the 95-97 for dual cat cars
                          Steve
                          79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
                          87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
                          93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
                          http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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                          • #14
                            Awesome, thank you. Who makes those long, horizontal, oval shaped exhaust tips? they're like 3 inches long and an inch and a half vertically. I can't quite describe them and i don't have a picture
                            Red 95 Trans Am: M6, Moroso CAI, Magnaflow, Spohn sway bars, back to life as of 2/15/10!!!
                            SOLD- Kinda miss it
                            94 Del Sol VTEC: 27 city/ 33 highway, knee deep in slowness
                            SOLD- Good riddance!
                            2006 Ford Fusion: 2.3, 5 speed, could run 15lbs of boost with a 150 shot and it'd still be slow

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                            • #15
                              I know what you mean. GMMG sells them exclusively for their systems as does Texas Speed & Performance. I don't know if TS&P will sell the tips alone, but GMMG won't. They look awesome though.
                              Steve
                              79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
                              87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
                              93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
                              http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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