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  • Why is the Corvette better I wonder...gotta read

    I don't think it is at all. I just got back from the Autoshow In Motion, hosted by GM, today out here. Got to drive some cool vehicles, including the Silverado SS and the H2. But, I drove the new C5 too...and was not impressed. In a drag, ANY decently-maintained V8 F-Body 93 or newer will smack a C5 hard. As for handling, its not worth the extra money, because I believe you can get an F-Body to match the C5 pretty easily. How can GM put out such a crappy car and think its so cool?? BTW, for all those that read the post on the clutch, it wasn't the clutch. The cat needs to be replaced. Thinking about a Carsound...any ideas? Gotta be street-legal, so it can't be gutted lol
    Steve
    79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
    87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
    93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
    http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

  • #2
    have you ever driven a Z06? they are far from "crappy".

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    • #3
      I disagree. I have also driven C5s and think they are a tremendous car. Yeah, you can mod a F-body to go as fast as a C5 in a straight line pretty easily, but don't forget the C5 guys can mod their cars, too. If drag racing is your only goal, then the Vette might not be the best choice, but the Vette has an F-body beat in aerodynamics, handling & stopping, too. Sorry to contradict you, I just don't find fault with the C5. One thing, though, If you are used to driving fast vehicles, jumping in a Vette might not have the same effect as it would for some doctor or other pudnocker who'se been tooling around in a Volvo for the last 10 years.

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      • #4
        I have driven a stock C5, and was impressed with the response, handling and tight construction. Heads and shoulders above my '95 Formula.....but that's OK.......the f-bods make their own statement.
        DWS
        Silver M6 '95 Formula-sold to MCKNBRD

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        • #5
          I have to add one perspective here. It depends entirely on the car. Every car off the assembly has the potential of performing differently. I've driven many Vettes and F-bodies and in both catagories, some of the cars were dogs, others ran like a scalded dog. That is how I eventually settled on the WS6 I currently own. All the others ran like a dog, this one was a terror and I knew it the minute I drove it. Same thing went for the Vettes I owned. I test drove quite a few until I settled on the one ZR-1 that had more life in the throttle. Makes you wonder, was it built on Monday or Friday?

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          • #6
            I have driven and raced stock C-5s and Z06s,put the pipe down and get some rest.

            They will both hand an F-Body it's ass on a silver platter,the z06 is simply amazing and is more fun to drive than the few Ferraries i have had the privelege to drive.

            Suspension on the vette is a lot better you just have to know you can push it much farther than the F-Bodies but once you lose it there is no catching it.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by TimeLord
              .........put the pipe down and get some rest.
              LOL... my sentiments exactly. I assure you, my WS6 feels like a toy compared to the Corvette Z06.
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              • #8
                As you may know, I road race my WS6 at driver schools with the BMW club .... and have a few suspension mods. I am typically untouchable....... until, that is, one of the C5s that are also in the group shows up in my run group.

                Gordon

                Gordon Arnold - '00 WS6 T/A - Sold

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                • #9
                  Guys, I really don't think he's talking about a Z06..... Besides, my LT-1 has beaten a few automatic LS1 vettes which are typically the slowest of the breed. Now I'm not talking about a road course, I'm talking a ¼ mile drag. The Vette would hand me my differential on a road course. The Z06 is indeed a different animal.

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                  • #10
                    What makes the Corvette so expensive is the quality of the material it is constructed from. Much more aluminum and composites versus cast iron and steel. Plus its a much more refined car.
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                    • #11
                      Hey guys, I've been away for awhile, and for those who don't remember me, or who are "new" (as in a year or so), I used to post on this board a lot! It's good to be back.

                      Anyways, just to say, I was there with Steve 93Z at the show. He drove the 6 speed C5 while I drove the auto. Firstly, we are talking about the normal C5, not the Z06. I don't think they would let anyone tear a new one up.
                      In regards to the C5, I will say I am impressed with one thing. When I was on the autocross track, the "driving instructor" in the passenger seat told me to punch it when I was still at the end of turn 1's entry (a sharp U-turn). I got on the gas hard and the rear end just held and handled amazingly. Now if I try that in the T/A, I would have lost the rear end and spun out in a heart beat. So I did like the handling and the computer aided handling system was impressive.
                      However, I was VERY disimpressed with the acceleration. From a stop, the instructor in the passenger seat told me to hit the gas as hard as I want. I floored it and kept on it all the way to around 5k in 2nd. I am not afraid to say that the T/A will smack that C5 in acceleration. I was able to punch the C5 a numerous amount of times, from a stop, from 20, from 40. It did have a lot of power, but my T/A just feels like it has a whole lot stronger motor. Now past 100 mph, I know that the LT1s wouldn't stand a chance (at least on paper), but I didn't get a chance to take it that high. I was also disimpressed with the visibility. I know a whole lot of people who make fun of our 4th gens for its lack of visibility. However, I found the C5 to be far worse (at least the covert model). I guess what I'm saying is that the C5 A4 is not a car I would buy, ever.
                      94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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                      • #12
                        Z06 or not... I'm sorry guys... I couldn't disagree more. Maybe your modded f-bodies can out accelrate it -- but stock for stock there is no way I would rather have an f-body than ANY Vette... no way, not ever.
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                        • #13
                          Ok, let me clear something up. I am talking about the C5 M6 roadster, not the Z06. I am comparing it to my near stock 93 Z28 M6 (previous owner claims to have put a perf. chip in it, not sure which one yet). As for handling, yes it was better than my Z. For power, you can disagree all you like, but my Z would smack it hard. The driveline is just not efficient enough, IMHO. Sorry, but I can't see paying 45+ thousand for a car when I can take my old Z, invest some time and money into it, and put a stock C5 into contention for far less than they payed for it.
                          Steve
                          79 FSJ - most expensive AMC Jeep ever Mods
                          87 GN - its just a 6... Mods
                          93 Z28 - slightly tweaked Mods
                          http://home.comcast.net/~budlopez

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                          • #14
                            i like the vette and respect it for what is has, but im not scared of them by any means. ill hand one his backside unless he is heavilly modded, i like them and would never bash them.

                            p.s. Jay, sell your car, you dont deserve it, you said "there is no way I would rather have an f-body than ANY Vette", are you crazy? your car is nasty, there is not a vette on the road i would take over my car, my car( as well as yours) is absolutely beautiful and has so much more body deffination than a vette. wake up buddy~gunter


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Steve93Z
                              Ok, let me clear something up. I am talking about the C5 M6 roadster, not the Z06. I am comparing it to my near stock 93 Z28 M6 (previous owner claims to have put a perf. chip in it, not sure which one yet). As for handling, yes it was better than my Z. For power, you can disagree all you like, but my Z would smack it hard. The driveline is just not efficient enough, IMHO. Sorry, but I can't see paying 45+ thousand for a car when I can take my old Z, invest some time and money into it, and put a stock C5 into contention for far less than they payed for it.
                              An M6 convertible Vette should be somewhere around 12.9 - 13.0 in the quarter mile. That must be one hell of a performance chip to put an otherwise stock LT1 at 13 flat.
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