Typo or deal of the century?

[Joe K. 99 Zeee!!]

Go for it! Should be entertaining!

[DierDesire824]

quite keep us updated :-p

[TraceZ]

quite keep us updated :-p

I didnt know that Sugar Land, Tx was in Germany.
The phone number in the ad is a US number too, I wonder....

[TraceZ]

Here is his response

Hi,

Good faith has always been my top priority and my most valued business approach.Payment
will be done by cash money transfer and will be supervised by BidPay.The most important
thing in all my activity is that I am affiliated at BidPay and I have a purchase protection
account for 10,000$.This money is for refunding my customers in case they are not satisfied
with my selling activity.The financial part of this deal will be manage by them.They are
acting like a third party in this deal.They will keep the payment until you receive and
test the car.First you will send the payment to BidPay.As soon as I have the confirmation
from Bidpay that they received the details regarding the payment,i will start the shipping
procedure. After you receive and inspect the car,if you are satisfied with it, you will
have to send an email to BidPay and tell them that everything it`s ok.Only then BidPAy will
release the payment to me.
Also if the car is not in the condition as described and/or documents are not legitimate,
and/or for any reason you are not satisfied with car they will refund you 100%.You have 30
days money back warranty,i mean ,if in 30 days you will change your mind you will resend
the items to me on my expenses.Please take into consideration that I will get paid only
after you receive the car.
If you agree with these terms and you have the money, send me your full name and address
and i will be more than glad to start to complete the transaction with you.As soon as you
will send me your personal details (name and address) I will contact BidPay and they will
send you all the details regarding this transaction.

My best wishes and I'm your response so we can move forward with this deal.

and my reply:

Personal details as follows:



Tracy Bahr

6601 Fairhaven Rd.

Madison, Wi. 53719

I was checking out BidPay and although they do look like a nice place to do business, I do not think they offer an escrow or holding service for transactions.

I have used https://www.escrow.com for automotive transactions in the past with good luck. They offer a complete service where they hold the funds until told to release it.

You are welcome to see if BidPay does offer such a service, but I was not able to find that on their website anywhere. They look like all they do is transfer the money, they don’t hold it.



Let me know what you come up with.

Tracy

I was hesitant to give my personal info, but what the heck, it's in the friggin phone book. one thing that is fishy already, is that BidPay is not an escrow service. From what I can tell the payment goes directly to the seller sort of like Paypal?? That's not cool.

[TraceZ]

his reply:

Hi Tracy,

I received your info.I will forward your info to BidPay and they will send you more details regarding this transaction.You should receive the details from BidPay in approx. 2 hours.Please email me after you will receive the details from BidPay.Looking forward for your email,

Best Regards!

So, I guess BidPay is going to email me?
If they do, I'll be calling them back on the phone and I wont be following any links in any emails.
How far is this guy going to take this?

[alenstein]

Hi,

I am glad to hear that you are interested about my car.The car is in perfect conditions

without any scratches or other mechanical problems.The price for the car with shipping

included,is $5500.The car has a Clear Title which you will receive it with the car.It can

be registered into your name.Also the car will arrive with all the documentations required

for registration.I will ship the car and I will pay the shipping costs.I live in Germany so

the car will be shipped from here.I bought this car from US but when i tried to register

the car in here they said that i can't register a car that has US emissions.I sell it so

cheap because i can't find a buyer in my country.I want to sell it in US because the car is

still registered there.I want to take this opportunity to assure you that this deal is 100%

legitimate,the financial part of this deal will be manage by a third party,in this way both

of us will be protected
So if you really want it please give me an email as soon as possible.

Thank you!

I see i everyone got the same email, i got it tonight.

Trce is making this more interesting.

[Dave M]

his reply:



So, I guess BidPay is going to email me?
If they do, I'll be calling them back on the phone and I wont be following any links in any emails.
How far is this guy going to take this?

TraceZ, BidPay is NOT an escrow service. If you pay them, you will not see your money back!! And you will see no car! Notice how, after you mentioned escrow.com to him, he completely ignored the comment and kept pushing Bidpay? He's not going to do the deal if you don't use BidPay, otherwise he knows he won't get the money.

[braindeadracefan]

Just wanted to let you know that I couldn't find a phone number for BidPay online, but you can email them from their website. You just have to click in the "service assistant" and then say you need more help and the email form will pop up. Good luck.

[Joe K. 99 Zeee!!]

Under Bidpay's consumer fraud section:

"Transaction Tips:


Make sure you know to whom you are sending a payment. Be wary of third party "collection" or "holding" services unless they are a reputable, licensed escrow service. BidPay is not an escrow service, should not be used as an escrow service and is currently not affiliated with any escrow service.
BidPay is a payment service only and is not responsible for the delivery or quality of goods purchased from another person. If you have a dispute regarding an item you've purchased, please contact the auction site you used to bid on the item. See the terms and conditions that apply to your use of BidPay. "


It's a fairly obvious scam, but I don't think we would want to see anybody, no matter how naive, caught up in this. In case anyone's interested, here's a site to the FBI Internet Fraud Complaint Center.

http://www.ic3.gov/

[Joe K. 99 Zeee!!]

Also from Autotrader:

What should I do if I receive a suspicious email?
If you receive a suspicious email that appears to come from AutoTrader.com:

Don’t just delete it! Report it to us first.
Forward any suspicious email message you receive to customersupport@autotrader.com.
Don’t change the subject line or send it as an attachment—doing so could hamper our investigation.
If you’ve been targeted by a spoof email or other form of online fraud, you can also bring it to the attention of federal and state law enforcement agencies by filing a complaint with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center.

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[TraceZ]

I realize bidpay is not an escrow service. I have no intention of giving bidpay a dime. I'm just having fun stringing him along.

[TraceZ]

I just got 3 emails from support@bidpay-secure-transaction.com

They want me to send a western union money order to a verified agent at:
BidPay verified agent details:
First name: Gandes
Second name: Plonept
Address: Emserstr. 20
City: Berlin
State: -
Zip Code: 10719
Country: Germany
Case ID: #4574851246

LOL. This is great.
I sent him an email saying the following:

Ok, I got the emails from BidPay. I’ll go to www.bidpay.com tomorrow and make the arrangements with them through their phone support.

Lets see what he says to that.
Here is a header from one of the BidPay emails for you guys to tear apart. The email had HTML content and looked very convincing.

Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0
Received: from exchange-pop3-connector.com ([192.168.0.2]) by tntprod-1.BAHRNET.local with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830);
Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:35:05 -0500
Return-Path: <support@bidpay-secure-transaction.com>
Received: from mxsf29.cluster1.charter.net ([10.20.201.229])
by mtao02.charter.net
(InterMail vM.6.01.05.03 201-2131-123-103-20050825) with ESMTP
id <20051015033447.OBEC15549.mtao02.charter.net@mxsf2 9.cluster1.charter.net>
for <tabahr@charter.net>; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:34:47 -0400
Received: from mxip09a.cluster1.charter.net (mxip09a.cluster1.charter.net [209.225.28.139])
by mxsf29.cluster1.charter.net (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j9F3TI7o025886
for <tabahr@charter.net>; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:34:47 -0400
Received: from webmail1.abac.com ([216.55.191.200])
by mxip09a.cluster1.charter.net with ESMTP; 14 Oct 2005 23:29:24 -0400
X-IronPort-AV: i="3.97,216,1125892800";
d="scan'208"; a="1500131134:sNHT401493240"
Received: from webmail.bidpay-online-transaction.com (localhost.abac.com [127.0.0.1])
by webmail1.abac.com (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9F3TLVr058165
for <tabahr@charter.net>; Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
(envelope-from support@bidpay-secure-transaction.com)
Received: from cache-frr-aa09.proxy.aol.com ([195.93.60.15]) (proxying for
unknown)
(SquirrelMail authenticated user
support@bidpay-secure-transaction.com);
by webmail.bidpay-online-transaction.com with HTTP;
Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <60967.195.93.60.15.1129346961.squirrel@195.93.60. 15>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:29:21 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: BidPay Transaction #4574851246 Started
From: "BidPay.com" <support@bidpay-secure-transaction.com>
To: tabahr@charter.net
User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
X-Mailer: SquirrelMail/1.4.3a
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html;charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Priority: 1 (Highest)
Importance: High
X-Spam-Score: 2.318 (HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_MIME_NO_HTML_TAG, HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY,MIME_HTML_ONLY,URI_REDIRECTOR ,X_PRIORITY_HIGH)
X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Oct 2005 03:35:05.0682 (UTC) FILETIME=[6F138B20:01C5D139]

[TraceZ]

Here is the HTML of one of the emails.... Look where the logo comes from.


<div><div><table style="BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" bordercolor="#ffcc00"
height="500" cellspacing="0" bordercolordark="#ffcc00" cellpadding="0"
width="598" border="1"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="594"
height="34"><font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#999999" size="2"><strong>Oct
15, 2005</strong></font> <br /><img height="22"
src="http://www.bidpay.com/images/hdrs/hdr-auctionpymts.gif" width="298"
/> <br /><font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#663366" size="2">BidPay
Transaction #4574851246 started! <br /><br /><strong>Current status:
Payment Pending</strong> </font></td></tr><tr><td valign="top"
height="49"><p align="center"><img
src="http://e-platnosci.23.pl/pix/bidpay_logo.gif" /> <br /><font
face="Trebuchet MS" color="#663366" size="4"><em>Offers protection for
customers:</em></font><font color="#663366"> <br /><img height="51"
src="https://imgs.escrow.com/graphic-hp_forbuyers.gif" width="170" /> <img
height="51" src="http://www.rottenrotty.com/images/large-clear-spacer.gif"
width="170" /><img height="51"
src="https://imgs.escrow.com/graphic-hp_forsellers.gif" width="170"
/></font> </p><p><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2">Dear <font
face="Arial"><strong>Tracy Bahr</strong></font>, After verifying the
trustworthiness of the seller and the availability of the merchandise for
immediate shipping, we have approved your buy it now transaction and
offered you, as the buyer, full purchase protection for the amount you
agreed on with the seller.</font> <br /></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top"
height="102"><p align="left"><font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#999999"
size="3"><strong>Purchase protection and refund: </strong></font></p><p
align="left"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2">Currently, this seller has
a<strong> $10,000.00 </strong>deposit in an BidPay managed purchase
protection account. Transactions with this Yahoo Autos seller are covered
by purchase protection against fraud and description errors. For your
safety, this account was locked today, for 30 days time period. The seller
is unable to withdraw any money from it, within this
period.</font></p><p><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2">Should you need a
refund for this transaction, the insured amount will be taken from the
seller's purchase protection account and sent to you. The refund is sent
to your bank account, or by check or money order. The way you are refunded
is at your choice. You have 30 days from the above verification date to
request a refund. Refund requests are processed within 3
days.</font></p><p><font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#cc0000" size="2">The
insurer of this transaction is BidPay Inc. <br />The account is managed by
BidPay center. <br />This transaction is supervised by BidPay SafeHarbor
team.</font> <br /></p></td></tr><tr><td valign="top" align="center"
height="315"><p align="left"><font face="Trebuchet MS" color="#999999"
size="2"><strong><font size="3">Conditions to be meet before you may ask
for a refund</font></strong></font><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"> <br
/><br />Here are the situations suitable for a refund request:</font>
</p><p align="left"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2">1) If the item
doesn't arrive and/or the seller stops communications after the payment
was received;</font></p><p align="left"><font face="Trebuchet MS"
size="2">2) If the merchandise you receive has different specifications
than the ones you agreed on;</font></p><p align="left"><font
face="Trebuchet MS" size="2">3) If your merchandise arrives in a much
longer period than the one you agreed on;</font></p><p align="left"><font
face="Trebuchet MS" size="2">For cases 2) and 3) you have to send back the
merchandise to the seller prior to ask for your refund. If you did not pay
by payment method required by us, your refund request will be declined.
</font></p><p align="left"><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><br />The
seller was informed about this transaction being started and is a
for our confirmation in order to start the shipping. It is recommended to
send the payment as soon as possible, because your purchase protection is
valid for 30 days only.</font> <br /><br /><font face="Trebuchet MS"
size="2">*</font></p><p><font face="Trebuchet MS" size="2"><a
href="http://mail.yahoo.com/config/login?/_javascriptl('http://www.bidpay.com/Copyright.asp');"
target="_blank"><font color="#cc0000">©1999-2005. First Data Corporation,
All Rights Reserved</font></a></font></p><p align="left"><br
/></p></td></tr></tbody></table></div></xbody /><!-- toctype = X-unknown
--><!-- toctype = text --><!-- text --><!-- END TOC --><!-- toctype =
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[TraceZ]

Oct 15, 2005

BidPay Transaction #4574851246 started!

Current status: Payment Pending

Offers protection for customers:


Dear Tracy Bahr, After verifying the trustworthiness of the seller and the availability of the merchandise for immediate shipping, we have approved your buy it now transaction and offered you, as the buyer, full purchase protection for the amount you agreed on with the seller.


Payment details:

To enjoy the purchase protection, you must send the payment by the insured payment method below. Sending the payment by any other method of payment will void this transaction and your right to refund.

The following item(s) are protected in this BidPay transaction:
2001 Chevrolet Corvette

Price: $5,500.00

Seller details:
Name: Robert Dunstein
Address: Kurfürstenstr 101
City: Berlin
State: -
Zip Code: 10787
Country: Germany
e-mail: chopperdun@yahoo.com

BidPay verified agent details:
First name: Gandes
Second name: Plonept
Address: Emserstr. 20
City: Berlin
State: -
Zip Code: 10719
Country: Germany
Case ID: #4574851246


Buyer's details:
First name:Tracy
Second name: Bahr
Address: 6601 Fairhaven Rd.
City: Madison
State: WI
Zip Code: 53719
Country: USA
e-mail: tabahr@charter.net

Transaction number: #4574851246
Amount insured: USD $5,500.00

Payment details:
Merchandise: 2001 Chevrolet Corvette
Price: USD $5,500.00
Downpayment: USD $0,000.00
Shipping: USD $0.00
Total: USD $5,500.00
Payment must be done by: Western Union Money Transfer
Next step to be taken: The buyer must send the payment to BidPay verified agent Gandes Plonept

You have to make the payment through Western Union Money Transfer service. If you are not familiarized with the Western Union money transfer services please visit: www.westernunion.com. If you want to locate the nearest Western Union Office in your area please click here. You have to pay with cash at any Western Union Office. Go to one of them and send the payment in cash to the name of the BidPay verified agent , available to United Kingdom.

However, Western Union Money Transfer is designed mainly for sending cash to friends and family in need, so telling them you are sending the money for an BidPay agent or a internet auction will prevent your money transfer to go through and you will be unable to complete this transaction.

3 easy steps:
1. Locate the nearest Western Union Office

2. Make the payment with cash using the above BidPay Agent details.

3. Send the following details from the payment receipt by fax at +1 (888)-395-2205 and by email support@bidpay-secure-transaction.com:
- MTCN number - 10 digits number from the payment receipt
- Sender's Name and Address
- Amount transferred (USD $5,500.00)




Once we receive the payment confirmation and our representative confirms everything is well done, we will instruct the seller to start the shipping process. We will hold the funds until you send us your confirmation that you are satisfied with the product you received. As soon as we receive your confirmation we will release the funds to the seller.



©1999-2005. First Data Corporation, All Rights Reserved

[bigtow]

the guy is talking out of his butt the emsions laws in the us are much stricter than in europe so the vette should fly through and ther is a big market for vetts i europe so selling it over here should be no problem also $5500 inc shiping the shiping alown is aprox $1500 to or from the uk more from germany i smell a big german rat get the fbi to open a can of whopp ass on him