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    New 5th Gen Video...

    This one is from Edmunds.com and has some footage of the car in motion. That exhaust sounds awesome!!!

    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=109195
    Joe K.
    '11 BMW 328i
    '10 Matrix S AWD
    Previously: '89 Plymouth Sundance Turbo, '98 Camaro V6, '96 Camaro Z28, '99 Camaro Z28, '04 Grand Prix GTP
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  • #2
    "This new platform uses a fully independent suspension with struts in front."
    2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

    1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

    A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Jeff 95 Z28
      "This new platform uses a fully independent suspension with struts in front."
      Hey, if it handles better than what does it matter?
      Joe K.
      '11 BMW 328i
      '10 Matrix S AWD
      Previously: '89 Plymouth Sundance Turbo, '98 Camaro V6, '96 Camaro Z28, '99 Camaro Z28, '04 Grand Prix GTP

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
        Hey, if it handles better than what does it matter?
        I don't see how it could. One of the problems I have seen with strut designs is when the wheels are turned the tires camber the opposite way that you would want them to. That makes them feather not to mention puts less tire on the ground. The tires tip in and out as they travel too. Fred's little picture shows that well. I can't believe they are going back to struts.
        2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

        1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

        A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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        • #5
          It has to hit the showroom first.I think that is A big if. I hope so.
          Blazer

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          • #6
            Well, you may be right...I based what I said from Scott's comments on another message board. GM is shooting for class leading performance with this car.

            ">be best in class in acceleration
            >be best in class on a road course and autoX
            >be best in class in fuel economy
            >be best in class in driver comfort
            >be best in class in terms of crashworthiness -- five stars all around..........."

            Don't know how it'll compare to the 4th gen...I guess that remains to be seen.
            Joe K.
            '11 BMW 328i
            '10 Matrix S AWD
            Previously: '89 Plymouth Sundance Turbo, '98 Camaro V6, '96 Camaro Z28, '99 Camaro Z28, '04 Grand Prix GTP

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            • #7
              The third gens had struts in front, and they could out handle fourth gens.

              Look at the cornering numbers from say an 89 Iroc, compared to an 00 SS.

              I suspect the strut setup in front is a money saver, so they can spend more on the independent rear. I dont have a problem with that as long as it performs.
              Tracy
              2002 C5 M6 Convertible
              1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
              Current Mods:
              SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids

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              • #8
                Believe it or not...I'll have to find the post, but he also has mentioned that the 4th Gen SS would post better times than a Corvette on a road course. It was a GM test track he was mentioning.
                Joe K.
                '11 BMW 328i
                '10 Matrix S AWD
                Previously: '89 Plymouth Sundance Turbo, '98 Camaro V6, '96 Camaro Z28, '99 Camaro Z28, '04 Grand Prix GTP

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by TraceZ
                  The third gens had struts in front, and they could out handle fourth gens.

                  Look at the cornering numbers from say an 89 Iroc, compared to an 00 SS.

                  I suspect the strut setup in front is a money saver, so they can spend more on the independent rear. I dont have a problem with that as long as it performs.
                  Do you have any data to back that up? I find that really hard to believe.
                  2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

                  1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

                  A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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                  • #10
                    I found a wide degree of ratings for Irocs, ranging from the lowest of .84 to the more common claims of .87 to .92.

                    After looking around the most common figures I could find for a 4th gen SS were .87 G's, and not much above that.

                    I couldnt find a direct comparison, though.
                    Tracy
                    2002 C5 M6 Convertible
                    1994 Z28 M6 Convertible
                    Current Mods:
                    SLP Ultra-Z functional ramair, SS Spoiler, STB, SFCs, Headers, Clutch, Bilstein Shocks, and TB Airfoil. 17x9 SS rims with Goodyear tires, 160F T-Stat, MSD Blaster Coil, Taylor wires, Hurst billet shifter, Borla catback with QTP e-cutout, Tuned PCM, 1LE Swaybars, 1LE driveshaft, ES bushings, White gauges, C5 front brakes, !CAGS, Bose/Soundstream audio, CST leather interior, synthetic fluids

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by TraceZ
                      I found a wide degree of ratings for Irocs, ranging from the lowest of .84 to the more common claims of .87 to .92.

                      After looking around the most common figures I could find for a 4th gen SS were .87 G's, and not much above that.

                      I couldnt find a direct comparison, though.
                      Don't get caught up in the straight G numbers. The 4th gen pulls more than the Cobra but the Cobra was 5 mph faster in the slalom course because of the IRS rear suspension and that was with struts up front. I think the 4th gen would clean the Cobras tach if it had IRS in the rear.
                      2002 Electron Blue Vette, 1SC, FE3/Z51, G92 3.15 gears, 308.9 RWHP 321.7 RWTQ (before any mods), SLP headers, Z06 exhaust, MSD Ignition Wires, AC Delco Iridium Spark Plugs, 160 t-stat, lots of ECM tuning

                      1995 Z28, many mods, SOLD

                      A proud member of the "F-Body Dirty Dozen"

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                      • #12
                        That is absolutely amazing. That thing sounds so good. Looks great on video too. Awesome find dude.
                        97 Chevy 'Raro Z28 M6- Ported & Polished LT1 heads,beehives,1.6/1.94 valves, 226/231 custom cam,K&N FIPK, 94-95 BBK shorty's,ORY,Magnaflow Catback,no cats,BMR LCA Relocation Brackets,Lower Control Arms,Adjustable Panhard Bar,Eibach Pro Kit,SPEC Stage 1,Walbro 255 Fuel Pump,30LB Injectors,Pro 5.0,Short stick,MSD 8.5's,NGK TR55's,LT4KM

                        01 Honda CBR600 F4i-Two bro's,Corbins,SS brake lines

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                        • #13
                          Sounds awesome, some things I like, some things I don't but it defiantely has something, can't wait too see the final product!
                          -Dan

                          1986 350 TPI Trans Am, 700R-4, Flowmaster exhaust, CAI, 180* t/stat, low temp fan switch, SFC's....Sold.

                          Project Status: LT1 disassembled, researching costs, searching for project car.

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                          • #14
                            Well there is no way a 3rd Gen "outhandles" a 4th Gen, but that does not mean the struts are no good. Combined with an IRS rear, the 5th Gen's should handle very well.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Joe K. 96 Zeee!!
                              Believe it or not...I'll have to find the post, but he also has mentioned that the 4th Gen SS would post better times than a Corvette on a road course. It was a GM test track he was mentioning.
                              What, if the SS had nitrous and drag radials, and the guy driving the Vette was 350 lbs? Do you have the specifics as to this SS vs. Corvette road course battle?

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