paging steve and joe

[Joe 1320]

However, I'm not sure if I would trust drums over discs myself, no offense Joe. Granted, I've never tried larger shoes and the aluminum drums, and I'm sure that's better than stock. But, I would think the Baer or SSBC rear disc kits would hold just as good or better than the drums. Wouldn't the clamping force of the disc caliper hold better than the spreading force of the shoes? I'm asking, not trying to put you down .

Just my 2 pennies...dingy as they may be lol

One would think that disks would work better. That's what I thought. They have the edge in stopping power. Other TR enthusiasts did the conversions and complained about less holding power at the line. They came to the opinion that the drums have beeter holding power, the disks have better stopping power. If you think about it, the shoes have more of an ability to "wedge itself" against the drum where the disk's pads are spread from side to side don't do that. Remember old drum brakes lock easy but didn't have much slowing power? Once locked, they tend to like to stay that way. Disks are much more linear.

I also don't have aluminim drums either...... I was a little hesitant to repeatedly do high boost launches with them, they are a little more prone to cracking than the iron. These work just fine, just heavy.

S-10 cylinders have been used to help change the brake bias too. I abandoned the idea of a rear disk swap, others convinced me not to do it unless I was out to build a road car. And in that instance, yes..... 4 wheel disks have the edge and for the money they should. They will even hold boost at the line, again... for the dough, they should. I'm not putting a baer pro kit on mine considering for what I use it for, an occational slow cruise with a couple 1/4 blasts at the track. That may change one day, but for now.... nope. If I drove mine regularly, I suppose I might upgrade.

Driving a TR the way you would a V8 will not get you the win light. TRs when driven properly, will ET incredibly well for it's speed. There is 3 tenths to be found just in the proper brake torque launch. If you don't have the proper technique, you'll be several tenths behind right off the launch and maybe more. Heck, it took maybe 40 runs just to get the launch consistant and quick, even then it changes greatly with track conditions. These will either 60' like a pig or a scalded dog depending on the hook ability and driving ability.

[fastTa]

First off, Kev, its a G-body

Second, Joe is right, Turbo Regals are a different beast in many respects compared to other vehicles. Modding and tuning one is a pretty different from others...you can't just throw parts at it and expect it to make miraculous gains.

However, I'm not sure if I would trust drums over discs myself, no offense Joe. Granted, I've never tried larger shoes and the aluminum drums, and I'm sure that's better than stock. But, I would think the Baer or SSBC rear disc kits would hold just as good or better than the drums. Wouldn't the clamping force of the disc caliper hold better than the spreading force of the shoes? I'm asking, not trying to put you down .

Just my 2 pennies...dingy as they may be lol

You know what I meant, G-body....Shme-body. Monte Carlo, Cutlass, Century, they're all the same. j/k We all know Kevin can't type to save his friggin' life. Don't make me enforce Man Law!

I know turbo G-body's are a very unique animal. I actually have a unique respect for their capability. I remember back when I was in middle school, probably 6th or 7th grade, I came home from school and my uncle had brought home a brand new turbo GN (think it was an '85 really can't remember). All the men in my big family were always competing with cars. I remember that was my first real ride in a turbo car and probably sealed the deal for me right then and there on turbo's. I went with him to the track many weekends when my dad was on TDY. He would always run against our close family's friend Pete who ran a 210" Top Fuel altered just for fun. Good 'ole days!

The one thing that every single turbo car has in common, is that they are all finicky at the line and take lots-o-practice to develop a consistant launch technique.

I really like the SSBC disc kit over most of the other kits. Now if you are building an all out TR, then Aerospace disc brake kits are the ticket. Whenever we do disc conversions, we always use SSBC. They have awesome customer service, and well they all know us by now.