Double kill last night!!!

[Steel2686]

Street racing is stupid.

It doesn't matter how young or old. Street racers fit into the same category. I can't say the name of that category here because this is a family site.

[Joe 1320]

, you are taking a chance- when you are accelerating like that, you aren't really in contol- what happens when the 80-year old grandpa with bad eyesight pulls in front of you, or the drunk steps of the curb?- now you are in a world of hurt, not just an accident, but felony racing, criminal negligence, impounded car, etc. If you ever get back on the street, you probably couldn't afford insurance-
So, is it worth the risk? Not to me.....

Very true and smart, yet people take these risks every day. It's a catch 22..... people love the performance but are too quick to jump on it while on the street. The street is there..... every day, the track is only open maybe a couple times a week. It's all too convenient to romp on it when the opportunity presents itself. At least you took it to a remote area off the roadways and the chances of hurting a bystander was remote.

The biggest thing that gets in the way believe it or not, is the heat of the competition. That's where the adrenaline rush causes some lack of good judgement in unseasoned drivers and the likelyhood of disaster increases. Professionals always talk about "running your own race" and not paying attention to the "competition with another". You never know the true mentality of the other drivers until you have seen them in previous runs over time. Do you really know who you are up against? What about their reflexes and control? Remember that next time you want to drop that hammer.

[strkt_&_blwn]

i understand all of your points and i'm not trying to over extend this conversation or start an arguement but i'm not too sure that it is well known how it really goes down on the street everything isn't just perfect scenario's there is lots of factor's that influence younger drivers and even older drivers. peer pressure i think being one of the worst, and showing off would be another major one. but for alot as JOE said it's the matter of competition that's another big one.

[Steel2686]

i understand all of your points and i'm not trying to over extend this conversation or start an arguement but i'm not too sure that it is well known how it really goes down on the street everything isn't just perfect scenario's there is lots of factor's that influence younger drivers and even older drivers. peer pressure i think being one of the worst, and showing off would be another major one. but for alot as JOE said it's the matter of competition that's another big one.

Agreed. Peer pressure and showing off are huge factors. I'm not going to sit here and be hippocritical. I used to do my share of STUPID things behind the wheel. I put my old self squarely into the category I posted above. I was lucky to never kill myself or anyone else. That's actually a driving factor behind one of my passionate arguements that the legal driving age should be raised to 18 or 20. There's just such a thread buried in the archives of this site). No way was I, or most people I knew, ready to take the responsibility of driving at 16 or 17.

At some point, we must realize no one is perfect or invincible. All it takes is one minor mistake. Just one. We all make them. Let's put aside the obvious consiquenses like loss of life (innocent or otherwise), bodily harm, and the likes. How about monetary damage to your vehicle you work so hard to keep nice? Jail time? Loss of your license for an extended period of time?

It's nice to rack up "kills". Especially when someone is running their mouth. The best defense is to get information on tracks in your area, and throw that in their face. Do it legally, at a place where the times are official. You'll get a sheet of paper to prove it as well. Nothing better than that.

[TODD 2000 V6 CAMARO]

i understand all of your points and i'm not trying to over extend this conversation or start an arguement but i'm not too sure that it is well known how it really goes down on the street everything isn't just perfect scenario's there is lots of factor's that influence younger drivers and even older drivers. peer pressure i think being one of the worst, and showing off would be another major one. but for alot as JOE said it's the matter of competition that's another big one.

Punctuation....it can be your friend. Why is it that the people who defend street racing on here can never spell or use correct grammar or punctuation?? I guess it is the fact that I was raised by an English teacher, but the overall lack of litteracy on the web appalls me. I find it hard to read all the way through a post when it is that poorly expressed. Sorry, not trying to bag on you, just giving a little advice: If you want to be taken seriously, take your time and make your posts a little more coherent. Anyway, Bird of Prey, I think you were at least responsible in taking it to that development. The danger was still there, but nowhere near as bad as doing it on the street. I think for those who still race on the street, it will take a catastrophic incident to make them see how bad it can actually turn out...rush or no rush. I admit, I have done it a couple of times, but the last...and I mean the final time ever...that I did it, my wife was in the car. She was the one that suggested I race this guy, but afterward I started thinking about all the what-if's and it shook me up pretty badly. If I were ever responsible for killing or injuring another person, especially my wife....I couldn't live with myself. Anyway, just my $0.02.

[raroZ28]

litteracy on the web appalls me.

lol, litteracy.

When you go to correct somebody, you should at least run a spell check so you don't make yourself look foolish.

I understood what he wrote just fine. Literacy isn't everything.

[strkt_&_blwn]

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I understood what he wrote just fine. QUOTE]

Appreciate the back up.

I think you're misunderstanding me it's not that i'm defending the subject, i was just trying to put it in perspective a little better, from the way that everyone was sounding in their replies it just didn't seem like they had been around much large street racing. don't get me wrong that's not meant as anything personal that just the vibe i was getting i apologize sincerly if i offended anyone. i am going to try to keep it on the track from now on though. my car is way too expensive to loose or wreck because some one ran their mouth. and i'm pretty sure that where i'm from there won't be much of anything to make it worth my fuel to race them. i think that everyone is right it's better off left on the track but that's not the way it's going to work always and i'm sure that everyone knows that already but i was just saying. i apologize again if offended anyone with my replies.

[strkt_&_blwn]

I understood what he wrote just fine.

Appreciate the back up. "RaroZ28"

I think you're misunderstanding me it's not that i'm defending the subject, i was just trying to put it in perspective a little better, from the way that everyone was sounding in their replies it just didn't seem like they had been around much large street racing. don't get me wrong that's not meant as anything personal that just the vibe i was getting i apologize sincerly if i offended anyone. i am going to try to keep it on the track from now on though. my car is way too expensive to loose or wreck because some one ran their mouth. and i'm pretty sure that where i'm from there won't be much of anything to make it worth my fuel to race them. i think that everyone is right it's better off left on the track but that's not the way it's going to work always and i'm sure that everyone knows that already but i was just saying. i apologize again if offended anyone with my replies.

[birdOFprey]

Punctuation....it can be your friend. Why is it that the people who defend street racing on here can never spell or use correct grammar or punctuation?? I guess it is the fact that I was raised by an English teacher, but the overall lack of litteracy on the web appalls me. I find it hard to read all the way through a post when it is that poorly expressed. Sorry, not trying to bag on you, just giving a little advice: If you want to be taken seriously, take your time and make your posts a little more coherent. Anyway, Bird of Prey, I think you were at least responsible in taking it to that development. The danger was still there, but nowhere near as bad as doing it on the street. I think for those who still race on the street, it will take a catastrophic incident to make them see how bad it can actually turn out...rush or no rush. I admit, I have done it a couple of times, but the last...and I mean the final time ever...that I did it, my wife was in the car. She was the one that suggested I race this guy, but afterward I started thinking about all the what-if's and it shook me up pretty badly. If I were ever responsible for killing or injuring another person, especially my wife....I couldn't live with myself. Anyway, just my $0.02.

Well, I was actually writing this post during the middle of my electronics engineering mid-term. Sorry that I didn’t have time to meet your high literacy standards...

[birdOFprey]

lol, litteracy.

When you go to correct somebody, you should at least run a spell check so you don't make yourself look foolish.

I understood what he wrote just fine. Literacy isn't everything.

thank you very much raroZ28, i think you just redeemed yourself after that highschool comment lol

[raroZ28]

thank you very much raroZ28, i think you just redeemed yourself after that highschool comment lol

lol, he was talking to strkt when he was going on and on about litteracy and how it appalls him.

And I didn't mean anything by the HS comment. I was assuming you were like 18 and still in HS. I didn't mean anything by it.

[DierDesire824]

Well from prior experience I must say i have made a few dumb decisions when it comes to racing I am the one you guys probably see as the most likely to be that guy giving Camaro's a bad name a 18 year old on the street driving like a jackass. But I do not mostly because of the reasons above the reason i have my car is because i LOVE it i have spent way to many hours in the front lawn polishing it the two year's i've had it lol. Also, i was in a pretty bad accident with a kid acting like a dumbass when i was 16 and it was amazing that of us where taken to the hospital we did about 60 into a forest cause he lost control of the car around a turn. I think that taught me the most and has what has kept me from spending everynight at the local grocery store like most of the people in my town i have "street raced" a few times but like everyone here know's who really hasn't but now i hardly ever do it i mean i do a 0 - 60 run every know and then on the highway just to hear the borla : ) lol. But rarely do i ever engage in races and even if my friends do want to race we usually end up just cruising on a nice day or something just to really suprise people by looking at two younger individuals in sports cars not flying all over the place like the honda civics. lol but overall i don't think street racing is worth it i think crusing with people is fun but even in the few times i have street raced i never really liked it i always cut off and think about it.

[78formula78]

Ok I think I might just have something to add to this street racing debate. Me and my friends used to go to the races every friday and saturday night for many months together. This was when my friend had his 95 V6 Camaro. Things were pretty good for the first few months, the people were polite to eachother, races were done in empty where house areas with people at the starting line and no one along the sides, and if someone's car couldn't handle the night everyone was there helping turning wrenches.

But, after a couple months I started noticing things changing. The same people stoped showing up and new people came that didn't want to follow our rules. And pretty soon we had a RSX decorating a tree and a mustang fishing for salmon in river (he was accually a friend from work, but thats another story..)

Once that started happening we just stopped going. Even after my friend got his 93 Trans am from his dad we didn't go back. The people there had became horrible examples of your typical ricer/street racer. But moral of the story "If it is organized and done safely then I can see where one would do it, but after watching the mustang go in the air, smash into the cement sidewalk, and land in the river I do not want to go again ever."

And yes the mustang driver got his 03' 5-speed GT mustang because his dad bought it for him and gave it to him. He was a Ricer without a rice car.

[raroZ28]

And yes the mustang driver got his 03' 5-speed GT mustang because his dad bought it for him and gave it to him. He was a Ricer without a rice car.

See, I think that's somewhat of a problem. If you can't afford the car on your own, you're not ready to own it. When you buy a car on your own, pay the bill on your own, and have it insured under your name (as a young male) and pay the insurance, you have a whole new respect for the car and what you do in it. I never street raced my car for this reason. Most of the young guys in nice cars you see out street racing have no respect, and they know they won't suffer much consequence, unless they die or kill someone else.

I have way too much to lose to wreck my car or hurt somebody else in MY car.

My friend that had the 01 red SS was like this. He had no respect for the car, always racing, etc... His parents insurance on the car went to $600/month and they were forced to sell it.

[78formula78]

See, I think that's somewhat of a problem. If you can't afford the car on your own, you're not ready to own it. When you buy a car on your own, pay the bill on your own, and have it insured under your name (as a young male) and pay the insurance, you have a whole new respect for the car and what you do in it.

I agree completly and I'm proud to say I have bought everyone of my Car by myself except for my Firebird I paid 2000 and my parents put in 1000 as my Birthday gift. But I've seen way to many kids with cars and insurence paid for by their parents. I went to school with rich spoiled kids, my son will buy his own car and pay his own insurence no questions asked.