NFB: new law proposal

[bru333]

I don't have a problem with standardizing driver's licenses. But as this is written now, there is no limit to the information that can be included in the data base, and how it can be used. Also the data base would be shared with Canada and Mexico, which don't have the same laws about the privacy of your information.

[DeWynter]

Yet another message critical of the USA.

You get me totaly wrong, and I think your just a bit to defensive about what I say. I would have the same reservations about this type of thing if it was england or germany or the netherlands or anyone else who was implementing this type of law. I Have no problem with the cards being tagged for governtment use only. I wouldnt want to have it under my skin, and this is a possibility. The thing about all the electronic "tagging" is that its vunerable to being skimmed. It was alot harder 15 years ago to steel someones identity than it is now. The more electronics we use for security, the more vulnerabilities there are. I know computers and electronic devices and how to tap into them, as its part of my job as an engineer to design systems to thwart electronic theft. The problem is a guy like me can make as much money being a good guy as bad, and theres alot of people who care only about money and not morals. And heck when you get caught beeing bad all they do is put you in jail until the feel you will work for the government, then they pay you even more and put you back to work, just on the other side of the fence. I dont mean to be critical of the USA only, its just that the US is the ones making all the new laws for security and using all the new technologies out there, before they have even really had time to make the systems complete and do full testing. There is a new vulnerability every month. What makes you so sure some guy with an RFID scanner isnt just gona walk down the street pickin up every person they walk past?

[ONLNTM5]

Better security against everything, even identity theft, and credit theft, is going to be the main selling point of these tags and implantable chips. I haven't figured out how they are going to make our personal identity data and credit card data safer with RFID, but I'm sure they will figure out a way to convince people. Have you noticed the increase in identity theft, and credit theft recently?

Here is a statement form this site
http://news.com.com/Human+chips+more...html?tag=st.rn
The concept of implanting chips for tracking purposes was introduced to the general public more than a decade ago, when pet owners began using them to keep tabs on dogs and cats. The notion of embedding RFID tags in the human body, though, remained largely theoretical until the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, when a technology executive saw firefighters writing their badge numbers on their arms so that they could be identified in case they became disfigured or trapped.

Also:
Latin American customers are looking at both technologies for security purposes, which partly explains why some of VeriChip's early clients included Mexico's attorney general, as well as a Mexican agency trying to curb the country's kidnapping epidemic, and commercial distributors in Venezuela and Colombia.

Hospitals in Europe and the United States are also experimenting with inserting tags in ID bracelets. The Jacobi Medical Center in New York, along with Siemens Business Services, has launched a pilot program that will outfit more than 200 patients with radio bracelets.

You see, the U.S. is not the only one pushing this stuff. There is tons of information on the internet about all of this. I recommend that everyone research it and get up to speed on the emergence of the world wide use of this RFID technology.
It's already a big part of our lives, with an already widespread usage in many different forms, and is about to get bigger-

[Master of Stiks]

First off, on the surface it would seem like a reasonable idea to improve our current system of identification in the US. The problem I see is that, as they always do, they will take a little at a time slowly getting us used to the idea until it is full blown. Anyone out there that remembers the introduction of taxes? They had good reasons, need to pay off war debt, but they never quit taxing did they? Second, they are not going to issue a nation wide implant party. It would be grounds for rebellion. What they are going to do is start tagging infants under the guise of something else until it is mandatory for all infants to be tagged. In a mater of 20-30 years all legal US citizens will be tagged. The problem the ACLU has with this program is that only the legal citizens are going to be tagged, so the millions of illegal aliens that they are trying to get drivers liscenses for right now would have to leave the country. "The American Civil Liberties Union likened the new rules to a "de facto national ID card," saying that the measure would force "states to deny driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants" and make DMV employees act as agents of the federal immigration service." Undocumented immigrants, anybody know the process for becoming a US citizen? Lets just say that there is a good reason for hopping the border. "States would be required to demand proof of the person's Social Security number and confirm that number with the Social Security Administration." As far as social security goes anyone know what was said when FDR implemented the program? They said that your social security number would never be used as an identification number. It hasn't been that long and if you don't have your social security number you can not function in our society. The reason that our government is able to do this is because people in general are stupid. "How fortunate for those in power that people are stupid."-Adolf Hitler How do you think the nazis took power? Anyway just my two cents.

-Stiks