Farewell...

[Nightrage]

I've decided recently that i'm oficially sick of my car. It's boring. The legendary pull of the Trans Am simply doesn't exist. The 14 MPG and rediculous insurance rates simply don't justify 14's in the quarter for me. I don't have the money to go cam swapping and head porting and bolt ons just aren't going to do it for me. I love the way this car handles but i also find the front end to be very plain. I'm going to try asking $7,900 for it. I know i've said i was going to sell it before but this time i'm serious. There are "for sale" signs sitting in my windows as we speak. 75,000 highway miles, 6 speed (around here 6 speeds are rare), leather, power everything. I paid $8,900 for it less than a year ago. I plan on getting a better paying job real soon so my plan is- sell the Trans Am and get an Accord. Save money on gas and insurance. Next Spring, hopefully i'll have enough for an LS1. Alternatively, if i can get a good deal on a black LT1, i'll think about it. I want something with t- tops. I'm really considering a Fiero. If i were to swap a 3.8 from an f-body into a Fiero, i'd probably hit low 14's- high 13's and still be getting 25+ MPG. If i was feeling ambitious, i could drop in a worked LT1. I've got tons of thoughts running through my head right now. I've thought about third gens, a Dodge Stealth, a base model V-6 f-body, a Mustang (though this thought was dispelled rather swiftly), etc. The only way i'll be keeping this car is if absolutely no one is interested. There's really no reason for me to be sticking around the boards anymore so for now, good bye and good luck -Tom

[TraceZ]

So you mean to tell us you gained nothing but car advice from this forum?

How have you been feeling, Tom?

Come say "hi" every so often, even if you don't have a f-body anymore. Selling the car does not mean you are giving up the hobby. You will still benefit from reading the posts, unless you already "know it all".

[JeffM T/A GT]

Fiero

I have both a 1994 trans am m6 and a fiero 2.8 v6 auto. My fiero has a custom flowmaster exhaust that sounds like a v8. I always get compliments on it. Having both I can tell you the fiero is a blast to drive. It will blow just about anything off the line (but not much after that). I get about 26 - 27 mpg on the 2.8. I don't believe the fiero came with t-tops (could be wrong), but there are kits for it. If you can, get a 1988. That was the last year it was made and the only year they didn't use the chevette front end. It is gonna cost a little more but well worth it from what I hear. Even with the chevette front end, mine handles like a dream. The middle mounted motor makes the weight distribution almost 50/50. I love my trans am, but I have a special place in my heart for my fiero. I like driving a car that hardly anyone else has.

[Nightrage]

So you mean to tell us you gained nothing but car advice from this forum?

How have you been feeling, Tom?

Come say "hi" every so often, even if you don't have a f-body anymore. Selling the car does not mean you are giving up the hobby. You will still benefit from reading the posts, unless you already "know it all".

I know, i really enjoyed everyone here but i've realized that in the year that i've been a member i haven't contributed anything. I really don't have anything to offer. I've definitely learned a lot from everyone.

I really like the body style of the C-4 Corvettes. That clamshell style hood gets me every time. Maybe when i'm older i'll get a late 80's Vette and drop an LS7 in or something but for now a Fiero with a bigger motor will suit me just fine I know that i've seen a bunch of t-top Fiero's but you're very possibly correct. They could just be t-top conversions. I've just recieved good news that within the next 2 years, there's a good possibility that i'll be moving. Hopefully to Oregon or some other more but not overly rural area. Long Island is too congested. It's going to hell too. Maybe i'll end up somewhere that lacks fuel emissions laws . I'll be sure to stop in every so often and check up on everyone. Thanks again guys.

[Joe 1320]

I've decided recently that i'm oficially sick of my car. It's boring. The legendary pull of the Trans Am simply doesn't exist. The 14 MPG and rediculous insurance rates simply don't justify 14's in the quarter for me. ................. There's really no reason for me to be sticking around the boards anymore so for now, good bye and good luck -Tom

Bah..... you just need some seat time in a really boring econbox to keep your perception honest. 14 mpg make no sense, especially with a stick shift. 14s in the quarter doesn't sound right either. Sounds like you just have some tuning and perhaps driving issues. In any case, hang around anyway. It seems like those that get rid of their f-body eventually find their way back home.

[Christopherrr]

It seems like those that get rid of their f-body eventually find their way back home.

You'll come back...they always do, eventually.

[95z28]

no reason you cant still stick around, that is unless you go and buy a mustang . . .

[Nightrage]

Bah..... you just need some seat time in a really boring econbox to keep your perception honest. 14 mpg make no sense, especially with a stick shift. 14s in the quarter doesn't sound right either. Sounds like you just have some tuning and perhaps driving issues. In any case, hang around anyway. It seems like those that get rid of their f-body eventually find their way back home.

I had a really boring econobox. I called it an 86 Monte Carlo lol. That thing couldn't even chirp the tires on sand. From a dead stop if you put the pedal to the floor, the car would feel like it was about to stall before it went (and by went i mean it kionda crept along). Handled kinda decent but only got 16MPG so i guess it doesn't really qualify as an econobox. Over the winter my T/A got around 14 MPG. Over the summer i get around 18- 19MPG and that's 98% highway driving. The only driving i do around town is to school which i obviously don't attend over the summer, my grandma's house which is about 3 miles away and then work which takes me about 5 minutes to get to (and that's if there's traffic). Everything that i've read states that stock LT1's run about a 14.1 in the quarter on average. My catback, shifter and CAI wouldn't really affect taht in any way would they? Another problem that i'm having is that a stock LT1 puts down what, maybe 250 horsepower to the wheels if you're lucky?
Camaro Performers magazine is killing me too. They just started something called Project BAMF. It's a stock six speed 95 Z28. They ran the quarter with it in 14.13 and pulled .77 G's on the skidpad. 0-60 in 5.6 seconds. Camaro Performers also featured an article about a supercharged, nitrous injected car. It's a 95 Z, 383 stroker motor with LT4 heads and intake, it's cammed, blown (10PSI) and running on a 150 wet shot of vitamin N. It pulled 547 Horses to the wheels. With those mods, he's only pulling 547 horsepower? I've been told by reliable sources that simply porting the heads and upping the cam on an LT1 that you can see high 300's to the wheels (375+). This is kinda disheartening I'm thinking either i need an LS1 or a 350 Fiero. I like the Fiero. A lot of people think they're ugly so slapping the taste out of their mouth as i rip em a new one would be very satisfying.

Well, i'm off to toss 5 quarts of Mobil 1 in ol' Firebreath for the last time (hopefully anyhow).

[Joe 1320]

Everything that i've read states that stock LT1's run about a 14.1 in the quarter on average. My catback, shifter and CAI wouldn't really affect taht in any way would they? Another problem that i'm having is that a stock LT1 puts down what, maybe 250 horsepower to the wheels if you're lucky?

maybe 240 at the wheels stock. A catback, cold air intake should be good for about 25 HP combined.... so maybe 265 at the wheels. Just to put things into perspective.......

Add lower control arm relocation brackets, do the TB heat bypass, add some sticky tires and I'll bet you would run around 13.7-13.8.

Add a 1 LE aluminum driveshaft and adjustable torque arm, you will knock another couple of tenths off the ET for around a 13.55ish

It really doesn't take high dollar mods to make these cars perform. That are so many places that you can squeeze a tenth here, a tenth there, that my 97 A4 with stock heads, cam and intake is down to 13.0s. It's all about looking at effeciency and what will have an impact on performance. Many of the bolt on performance parts I acquired were already used for even greater savings. But hey, it's up to you.

[Z Ya Later]

14MPG?!?! Geez man, are you racing everyone in sight? I doubt you are, so something doesn't sound right. I'm getting 16-17 on the street with gears that aren't as good as yours, almost 25 on the freeway. Might wanna look into some basic maintenance. Also, as Joe pointed out, a few choice mods will really wake her up. A good set of sub-frame connectors will also helps with times slightly, and definitely up the road manners. Just make sure this is what you want to do, because once she's gone, that's it. No do-overs, no take-backs...she's gone.

[JeffM T/A GT]

fiero

Check this site out www.fierox.com. They guy has a super charged 3.8. He is running 11.6 in the 1/4! Check out the videos.

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

Here's one with an LT4. Unfortunately, I didn't get to talk to the guy to see how fast it was.

[casey02ws6]

Think long and hard - you will regret it. I tried to get away but got pulled back in. I had a 1985 Fiero GT - 4 spd - first year they made them - I loved that car. FYI - they were not offered with t-tops - it was a kit - and a very bad one from what I hear! 14 MPG cannot be right.

[alenstein]

Yup yup yup, I know that feeling all too well ask myself that many times. But damn it for a 12 yearold car the TA still looks good and still pulls hard. Myself recently put the TA out for sale.

Hey am getting crappy gas mileage too, just about 12-14 in the city. 180 - 190 if am lucky from the tank. That is city and some highway. Go figure.

[casey02ws6]

Hey am getting crappy gas mileage too, just about 12-14 in the city. 180 - 190 if am lucky from the tank. That is city and some highway. Go figure.

Have you tried putting a Tornado under the hood Supposed to improve gas mileage and power by as much as 25%

(I hope ya'll know I am kidding)