Fact or Fiction

[Maverick_82]

I have substantial proof that sugar in the gas tank fouls up the fuel system

What kind of feul system was it?

[Nightrage]

I watched photoage of this test. Some people made sure that there was enough gas in the tank and then unload about a dozen rounds into the gas tank.

I would speculate that the bullet had such a velocity that it passed through the tank wall with enough ease that it didn't create a spark.

Well, since they've lifted the assault weapons ban, i think i should go buy an AK-47 and try it out on my neighbors mustang

But seriously, that's pretty interesting. Lots of good stuff around.

[Maverick_82]

I heard coke(I'm assuming you meant coca-cola Ken ).

...yeah, lets go with that, lol.

[Maverick_82]

About the sugar in the gas tank, if it does work it still isnt the best best to put someone's car out of commission.

SAND IN THE OIL! if you pour a little bit of sand into the oily, their car is fried! By the way i suggest that you don't do this, it is extremely illegal!!!


Also, with the bullet and the gas tank. there are levels of gasoline saturation that will be too high for a simple spark to ignite. Now that i think about it the speed at which the bullet is traveling may cause the spark to occur inside the tank, where it will be engulfed in gasoline. To ignite there would have to be oxygen in the same area of gas as the spark. The bullet wouldn't have dragged oxygen into the tank yet due to it's design. The air would rush into the vacuum left behind the bullet, but the spark would be gone by then. i would think that a dum dum should cause an explosion, a bullet with a hollowed basin where the tip should be, however it is quite often illegal. This should trap oxygen in the tip of the bullet and deliver it into the gasoline at the same the spark is created.

If you're wondering why i know this it's because i'm a law enforcement major.

Before you try any of this, make sure it complies with your local laws and ordiences.

[Kevin - Blown 95 TA]

Wouldn't a metal bullet penetrating a metal gas tank cause a spark? Wouldn't a spark in that confined of an area cause an explosion? Oddly enough I was thinking about this not too long ago.

If you want to shoot a car, it's best to have some incendiaries or tracers mixed in with the armour piercing like a machine gun would use. That'll help explode a gas tank or catch it on fire. Otherwise, with a pistol, you can use hollow points drilled out some with a few grains of powder in the cavity and a primer glued in backward to make exploding bullets. That'll also do the trick if you get penetration.

[Maverick_82]

If you want to shoot a car, it's best to have some incendiaries or tracers mixed in with the armour piercing like a machine gun would use. That'll help explode a gas tank or catch it on fire. Otherwise, with a pistol, you can use hollow points drilled out some with a few grains of powder in the cavity and a primer glued in backward to make exploding bullets. That'll also do the trick if you get penetration.

Bottom line, you need three components for a fuel explosion: fuel-spark-air.

[Nightrage]

LMAO You guys are dangerous.

[markd79ta]

Well, since they've lifted the assault weapons ban, i think i should go buy an AK-47 and try it out on my neighbors mustang

But seriously, that's pretty interesting. Lots of good stuff around.

Just for clarification. You can buy the same weapon after the "so-called" assault weapon's ban expired as you could before the expiration. The pre-ban weapons were still out there, and the post-ban weapons were the same gun except for deleting minor features like the threaded barrel, bayonet lug, etc. A lot of people mistake these for the fully auto weapons they see in the movies. Nope, these are all civilian semi-auto weapons. There are only two ways to get a fully auto before and after the ban. 1st...illegally 2nd...live in a class three state and pay the transfer tax.

[Craig 94 TA GT]

What kind of feul system was it?

My fuel system...94 LT1. A tick syrup substance was used. About $3000-$4000 in damage including labor. The old myth used to be that sugar will seize up a motor. That part is not true. The part it does mess up is the fuel system.
There was also a test recently (have to find the link) that tried sugar in the tank. Turns out the sugar clogged up the pump and had very similar results.

[DeWynter]

The reason shooting a gas tank will not work is because the fuel to air ratio is to high.(N/A to almost empty fuel tanks) Just like flicking a cigarette into a can of gas will just put it out. you NEED the right amount of air to start a fire with any fuel. Especialy ones that evaporate. If the fuel dispalces all the air into another area you get no fire. That is why when we do Hot taps on a pipeline they reun the fuel through it as fast as they can, one to take away heat from welding and 2, so there is no chance of air in the pipe.( a hot tap is when you weld a junction onto a fuel carrying Pipeline ) Of course if you blow a whole right through the pipeline you still get fire, but only a jet of it, not an explotion. An almost empty fuel tank is way more dangerous than a full one, unless you are using some kind of high powered explotion to push the fuel out in a ball till it gains a significant amount of air to catch fire then it will expand larger as it burns. Thats why Gas bombs are so dangerous.

[Red20170]

Well put.... markd79ta

[Camaro84Berlinetta]

ping pong ball in the gas tank when it gets to low it just shuts off uncle had it done to his camaro rally sport...he finnaly got tired of it and broke it all down and found it there

[wolfdogs]

potato in the tail pipe...........

[Maverick_82]

LMAO You guys are dangerous.

I possess SELF-TUAGHT tactics and knowledge of weaponry that would make you pee your pants, and i'm only turning 19 in three weeks. It's not everyday you meet someone who can make a remote detonated explosive using only a cell phone and a hotel minibar.

I believe that the more i know the better cop i will make.

[wildman82]

here are some usfull info
flash point for gasoline is 120F
deisel is 140F
kerosene is 130ish i think
bleach and gas...boom
thermite...rust and magnesium= delta fire usually need something like a road flare to light
baking soda+vinigor+ cellephane wax, pvc pipe = pipe bomb
m80 wax and bbs
black powder playdoo= claymore mine
and nails or bbs anti- personel mine
bread flower is also explosive
laundry detergent will eat all o-ring in the fuel system
coca cole will disolve a 16 penny nail in bout 24 hrs

something boogos cell phone exploding gas stations more like the static electricity from your car getting grounded when u step out of it. especially newer ones. but cant have any wind blowing or it wont work. need to be a hot day too