I have recently come into hand, the Helms manuals for my 02 Hawk. It is great for showing what order to fix things but it has one major drawback... in the directions it does not state which tools or what the bolt sizes are...
For example: I recently had to replace my driver's side seat-belt guide on the headrest. I looked it up in the helms manual to figure out the recommended procedure. I read up only to find out that, the directions do not state what the bolt size, type, and the proper tool to disconnect the seat belt from the chassis, so I could rethread the seat belt through the new shoulder harness (the shoulder seat-belt harness uses two phillips screw's) . It also did not tell me exactly how to remove the plastic cover, which covered the bolt holding the seat belt. After twisting it around, I pried it off with a screwdriver. Afterwards it looks like the plastic cover comes off by twisting one side of the piece that holds it in (it is not complete - but has a gap in the parts that goes inside the plastic), out of the cover and slowly twist it out of the plastic mounting ... This was not mentioned in the Helms manual directions.
To further complicate things the directions do not state that bolt is actually a Torx bolt. I try my torx size 46, which workes with 78-82 GM A-body's but it seems loose. I then had to run down to autozone, to get a socket set of various size torx bolts for $16 at the local Autozone. Out of the 16 peice set, the only bolt I needed was the torx #50 socket for the 3/8" socket wrench.
After all the headache's trying to just take off the bolt I wish the helms included
- The type of screw used for the seat-belt shoulder harness
- The exact method for taking off the plastic cover for the seat belt anchor bolt
- The seat belt anchor bolt is a Torx bolt type (aka star type)
- The seat belt Torx bolt being a number 50 torx size that fit's a 3/8" socket driver
if I knew all of this ahead of time, I could of saved a lot of time and bought only the size #50 torx bolt (GM uses torx (start) bolts for the seat belts in all of its various cars throught the years)
this got me wondering
Does anyone have a list of reccommended tools for the 4th Gen, say something along the lines
10 mm socket (deep well and regular) - used everywhere) and wrench
#50 torx socket - used for seat belt anchor bolts
17 mm wrench and socket - used for shock tower nuts (ex: istalling STB) (not sure size is correct)
I figure WE could concentrate on gathering only the tools used for our cars vs having a set that has 3000 some odd other tools that will never touch our cars.
I figure that exact directions taking things off and on, say the interior plastic pieces, is a tall order .. but maybe a list of tools that will be used (and where!) on our cars, would be great info to know.
Does anyone know of any such tool lists that would make our lives easier?
For example: I recently had to replace my driver's side seat-belt guide on the headrest. I looked it up in the helms manual to figure out the recommended procedure. I read up only to find out that, the directions do not state what the bolt size, type, and the proper tool to disconnect the seat belt from the chassis, so I could rethread the seat belt through the new shoulder harness (the shoulder seat-belt harness uses two phillips screw's) . It also did not tell me exactly how to remove the plastic cover, which covered the bolt holding the seat belt. After twisting it around, I pried it off with a screwdriver. Afterwards it looks like the plastic cover comes off by twisting one side of the piece that holds it in (it is not complete - but has a gap in the parts that goes inside the plastic), out of the cover and slowly twist it out of the plastic mounting ... This was not mentioned in the Helms manual directions.
To further complicate things the directions do not state that bolt is actually a Torx bolt. I try my torx size 46, which workes with 78-82 GM A-body's but it seems loose. I then had to run down to autozone, to get a socket set of various size torx bolts for $16 at the local Autozone. Out of the 16 peice set, the only bolt I needed was the torx #50 socket for the 3/8" socket wrench.
After all the headache's trying to just take off the bolt I wish the helms included
- The type of screw used for the seat-belt shoulder harness
- The exact method for taking off the plastic cover for the seat belt anchor bolt
- The seat belt anchor bolt is a Torx bolt type (aka star type)
- The seat belt Torx bolt being a number 50 torx size that fit's a 3/8" socket driver
if I knew all of this ahead of time, I could of saved a lot of time and bought only the size #50 torx bolt (GM uses torx (start) bolts for the seat belts in all of its various cars throught the years)
this got me wondering
Does anyone have a list of reccommended tools for the 4th Gen, say something along the lines
10 mm socket (deep well and regular) - used everywhere) and wrench
#50 torx socket - used for seat belt anchor bolts
17 mm wrench and socket - used for shock tower nuts (ex: istalling STB) (not sure size is correct)
I figure WE could concentrate on gathering only the tools used for our cars vs having a set that has 3000 some odd other tools that will never touch our cars.
I figure that exact directions taking things off and on, say the interior plastic pieces, is a tall order .. but maybe a list of tools that will be used (and where!) on our cars, would be great info to know.
Does anyone know of any such tool lists that would make our lives easier?
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