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    Well I'm looking for a cam for my current project. I'll give all the specs then I hope some of the Cam Savy will throw down some Ideas.

    1970 350 4-bolt Block Bored .030 over W/ Roller conversion
    New forged 400 crank
    Forged connecting rods
    Flat top two valve relief Forged Pistons
    1987 Corvette Aluminum heads Ported 2.02/1.6 valves 5 angle valve grind
    1.6 RR
    Chromoly Push rods
    Roller lifters
    Super Ram Intake
    30lb injectors
    1 5/8 into 3" Headers
    All ports and Gaskets are size matched

    What I want is torque not top atainable HP. This is a street only car.

    Eric W.

    89 Firebird Formula WS6
    Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
    6.2L/382.97 ci
    Custom PROM Dyno tuned
    WCT-5 speed
    BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
    Boss MS 18" Rims
    Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
    Custom Dual exhaust
    1LE upgrade
    Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
    In a constant state of upgrade!

  • #2
    im guessing a custom grind. You may find more over at ls1 tech.
    2000 trans am auto, Afr 205,tr 220/220 112, mti lid, 160t,umi sfc,hooker headers and ory y,loud mouth. bellow,pr's,harland rockers,new lifters,ls6 oilpump,rollermaster doubler roller, msd wires.

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    • #3
      The cam choice will depend on a few other factors...... total vehicle weight, rear gear, automatic (converter stall) or manual ? This is really needed to consider the best choice for your application.

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      • #4
        1470 kg (3234 lbs)
        5 speed manual
        3.45 posi (9 bolt)

        Eric W.

        89 Firebird Formula WS6
        Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
        6.2L/382.97 ci
        Custom PROM Dyno tuned
        WCT-5 speed
        BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
        Boss MS 18" Rims
        Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
        Custom Dual exhaust
        1LE upgrade
        Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
        In a constant state of upgrade!

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        • #5
          Call Crane or Comp and give them your car info and what you plan to do with it and they can help you find what you need.
          1994 Z28 Camaro-Project carbed 4th gen
          1995 Silverado-beater truck
          2005 Colorado Z71-Daily driver

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          • #6
            I should have also asked....... CR?

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            • #7
              Currently static comes to 11.75:1
              4.03 bore
              3.75 stroke
              58cc head
              with a comp cams magnum 260/260 it was 9.7:1 dynamic

              Eric W.

              89 Firebird Formula WS6
              Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
              6.2L/382.97 ci
              Custom PROM Dyno tuned
              WCT-5 speed
              BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
              Boss MS 18" Rims
              Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
              Custom Dual exhaust
              1LE upgrade
              Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
              In a constant state of upgrade!

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              • #8
                Eric, based on what you told me in the PM, I think you would be happiest with either the Magnum or XE lobe in their retro roller camshafts. Since you want a bunch of torque down low, just ask Comp to grind in an advance...maybe 2-4 degrees. This will effectively lower the IVC and lengthen your dynamic stroke which will in turn make more dynamic compression and more torque.

                I would pick something in the mid 230 range @.050", make sure it's a 4-7 swap cam(worth another 10 HP), and it should have at least .380" lobe lift if you want a strong torque curve. I would also not go any wider than 110 LSA.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fastTA
                  Eric, based on what you told me in the PM, I think you would be happiest with either the Magnum or XE lobe in their retro roller camshafts. Since you want a bunch of torque down low, just ask Comp to grind in an advance...maybe 2-4 degrees. This will effectively lower the IVC and lengthen your dynamic stroke which will in turn make more dynamic compression and more torque.
                  .
                  But..... there will be a trade off with advancing the cam timing, a slight loss of upper rpm power. Since I am not up to date with every latest cam grind, isn't there something that wouldn't require advanced timing and still give suffecient upper rpm power too?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Joe 1320
                    But..... there will be a trade off with advancing the cam timing, a slight loss of upper rpm power. Since I am not up to date with every latest cam grind, isn't there something that wouldn't require advanced timing and still give suffecient upper rpm power too?
                    Grinding an advance into a camshaft only slightly reduces peak horsepower. In other words, the shape of the curve is slightly lessened in comparision to engine speed. The overall power under the curve, specifically in the upper RPM range, is barely affected by grinding in some advance less than 4 degrees.

                    Eric said he wanted a stop light to stop light motor. Grinding in advance is perfect for that kind of car. It greatly increases the potential for off idle torque and better throttle response. Perfect for light to light.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fastTA
                      Eric said he wanted a stop light to stop light motor. Grinding in advance is perfect for that kind of car. It greatly increases the potential for off idle torque and better throttle response. Perfect for light to light.
                      That makes perfect sense.

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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the info guys. I will be talking to comp next week some time. I will talk to them about what you guys have suggested. Thanks again.

                        Eric W.

                        89 Firebird Formula WS6
                        Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
                        6.2L/382.97 ci
                        Custom PROM Dyno tuned
                        WCT-5 speed
                        BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
                        Boss MS 18" Rims
                        Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
                        Custom Dual exhaust
                        1LE upgrade
                        Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
                        In a constant state of upgrade!

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                        • #13
                          You may have to get a cam ground on a small base circle if your rods are not stock type. When I put my 406 together I used forged Eagle rods and they would not clear a standard base circle cam. Another thing to think about is that if you have to run a small BC cam you may have to run longer push rods.
                          1994 Z28 Camaro-Project carbed 4th gen
                          1995 Silverado-beater truck
                          2005 Colorado Z71-Daily driver

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                          • #14
                            LT4 hot cam if u can
                            2009 Honda Civic EX- the daily beater

                            old toys - 1983 trans am, 1988 trans am, 1986 IROC-Z, 2002 Ram Off-Road, 1984 K10, 1988 Mustang GT, 2006 Silverado 2500HD

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 88bird5spd
                              LT4 hot cam if u can
                              Not a big fan of that cam actually. But thanks for the suggetion
                              I've been running alota cams threough the simulator program I have and it just didnt do it for the heads I have.

                              Eric W.

                              89 Firebird Formula WS6
                              Accel/Lingenfelter Super Ram
                              6.2L/382.97 ci
                              Custom PROM Dyno tuned
                              WCT-5 speed
                              BW 9-bolt Posi 3.45
                              Boss MS 18" Rims
                              Headman Headers 1 5/8 Ceramic Coated
                              Custom Dual exhaust
                              1LE upgrade
                              Custom Temperature / Navigation Rear View Mirror
                              In a constant state of upgrade!

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