turbo vs supercharger on a lt1

[DHolmes]

soon or later im going to get another car(srt-4 gas sipper), but im going to keep my lt1 since its paid for and I wont get much if I sell it,I want to get the engine rebuilt ang get a s charger of turbo,whats better cheaper and more reliable thanks

[ConElite]

Why not stroke and bore it when its rebuild. Do some heads/cam. All forged internals and 4 bolt mains. That there should be equal to an S/C or turbo on a stock LTx plus u dont have to worry about Boost and all the work that comes with that.

[DHolmes]

Why not stroke and bore it when its rebuild. Do some heads/cam. All forged internals and 4 bolt mains. That there should be equal to an S/C or turbo on a stock LTx plus u dont have to worry about Boost and all the work that comes with that.

Im a turbo guy,I love turbo's,before I got my lt1,I was looking at srt-4's,turbo mr2's,eclipse turbo gsx's,and twin turbo 300z's,just got a good deal on the lt1

[Z Ya Later]

Turbo IMO. No loss at the pulley system, power comes from the exhaust, blah blah blah. Its not always there, so you have good cruisability (love that in the GN). Buuuuuuut, when you dip into the pedal a little bit and hear that whine...it puts a nice smile on your face . Just my 0.02.

[DHolmes]

Turbo IMO. No loss at the pulley system, power comes from the exhaust, blah blah blah. Its not always there, so you have good cruisability (love that in the GN). Buuuuuuut, when you dip into the pedal a little bit and hear that whine...it puts a nice smile on your face . Just my 0.02.

this might sound weird,but I love the turbo lag,how it puts u back in your sit and gives u whiplash soon as the turbo whines up,do superchargers do that??,I dont know anything about s-chargers,besides there more common on v8's

[Z Ya Later]

this might sound weird,but I love the turbo lag,how it puts u back in your sit and gives u whiplash soon as the turbo whines up,do superchargers do that??,I dont know anything about s-chargers,besides there more common on v8's

No, they're instantaneous. Besides, turbo lag is fairly small to say the least on any modern system . And yes, that whine is lovely to say the least. Almost as good as the passenger's reaction when he/she realizes that their head is buried in the headrest .

[96FirebirdFormula]

this might sound weird,but I love the turbo lag,how it puts u back in your sit and gives u whiplash soon as the turbo whines up,do superchargers do that??,I dont know anything about s-chargers,besides there more common on v8's

Why you got the v8 to makeup for that turbo lag. my bro TT stealth he got 100 shot for turbo lag off the line.

[MunsonGTA]

to answer your question more specific. they are about the same in cost, the same in reliability, the turbo will make more power, the turbo is alot harder to install and requires alot of custom parts. supercharger is basically a bolt on and go setup. both require a dyno tune, and parts to back up the power you're going to make with a boosted lt1 motor.

[DHolmes]

to answer your question more specific. they are about the same in cost, the same in reliability, the turbo will make more power, the turbo is alot harder to install and requires alot of custom parts. supercharger is basically a bolt on and go setup. both require a dyno tune, and parts to back up the power you're going to make with a boosted lt1 motor.

So the s-charger is easier to install and requires less parts,how much more power will u gain from a turbo,And what will need to be done to my engine as far as a rebuild(136K)My girlfriend will be getting a 04 cobra in 3months or so,And I cant let her have a faster car then me ,So I was going to get turbo or s-charger ,so I can still be faster and drive her jetta or get a srt-4 as a daily driver,

[thomas]

Check out ATI prochargers. I think there the best on the market right now and have a but load of set ups. the best thing i think about them is they have warranty's and they make some of the most streetable horsepower for Superchargers. As for turbo's STS rear mounted turbos are getting really good reviews. MTI did on on a GTO for a highspeed shoot out against lingenfelter, hennesy vipers . Alot of horsepower but it keeps a lot of the heat out and it takes cold air in and not any hot air from the engine. Not too expensive if believe either. You could probably have mid to low 12's stock on either set up.



http://www.ststurbo.com/

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...upe_comparison

http://www.procharger.com/

[Joe 1320]

Turbo is where it's at.


Why?


everything from effeciency to the ability to control boost via computer or electrical means, less load on the crank snout, the list is really long. A properly dialed in Turbo is a beast. I've had both and personally I would go turbo.

[MunsonGTA]

So the s-charger is easier to install and requires less parts,how much more power will u gain from a turbo,And what will need to be done to my engine as far as a rebuild(136K)My girlfriend will be getting a 04 cobra in 3months or so,And I cant let her have a faster car then me ,So I was going to get turbo or s-charger ,so I can still be faster and drive her jetta or get a srt-4 as a daily driver,

you'll need a complete forged rebuild if you plan to run any moderate power with boost. as mentioned, turbos are easier to control boost. SC's you have to use a different pulley to change your boost, which really isn't that hard. i'd personally go turbo but it's alot more work. a SC setup is basically a bolt on and go setup, with minor mods to the car. a turbo setup, unless you buy a full kit, will require the turbo, connection pipes, turbo manifold/header, oil line ran for the turbo. both will require larger injectors and a custom tune. you're looking at probably 5k or so to do the motor rebuild, boost setup reguardless of which way you go, and get a tune done. and that's with you doing the majority of the work, it'll be more if you have somebody else do it.

[DHolmes]

you'll need a complete forged rebuild if you plan to run any moderate power with boost. as mentioned, turbos are easier to control boost. SC's you have to use a different pulley to change your boost, which really isn't that hard. i'd personally go turbo but it's alot more work. a SC setup is basically a bolt on and go setup, with minor mods to the car. a turbo setup, unless you buy a full kit, will require the turbo, connection pipes, turbo manifold/header, oil line ran for the turbo. both will require larger injectors and a custom tune. you're looking at probably 5k or so to do the motor rebuild, boost setup reguardless of which way you go, and get a tune done. and that's with you doing the majority of the work, it'll be more if you have somebody else do it.

thats expensive I had my old honda turbo'ed for 4k,install and everthing,but the turbo was from a crashed 99 eclipse Gsx,it was a 16g,got a deal,

[MunsonGTA]

thats expensive I had my old honda turbo'ed for 4k,install and everthing

well an lt1 motor with 136k miles isn't going to hold up to any boost, atleast for not very long. so you're basically looking at this.

350 rebuild:
you do it - 700/800 bucks for a cheaper rebuild
you do it - 1k+ for a good forged rebuild like eagle

turbo setup:
you buy the parts and build it - 2k or so
you buy the parts and have somebody else build it - 3k or so
you buy a kit and install yourself - 4k or so
you buy a kit and have a shop install - 4500 or more

SC setup:
basically the same as above only you could install it yourself much easier

injectors:
300 or so.

fuel pump:
125 for walbro, not sure if that would be enough pump or not

dyno tune:
400-600 depending on where you go

some shops might also offer you a package deal if you get the rebuild done through them, the turbo setup through them, and then have them dyno tune it. a buddy of mine did that with his ls1 TA, he ended up around 7k out the door for a complete engine rebuild to handle 600 rwhp, some other engine work, a single front mount turbo setup, all supporting mods for the fuel system, and a dyno tune. he made 412/470 to the tires with only 6 lbs of boost through the stock 4l60e.

[DHolmes]

think ill be able to keep up with my girls cobra with a turbo setup,I figure it be cheaper to do this then buy a LS1 or get a cobra myself