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  • #31
    You got the new fuel pump in but have you checked pressure yet? Pressure at key on, idle, WOT, and after shut off to see any leakage?
    94 Black T/A GT, Advanced Induction 355, 3200 stall, built 4L60E, Moser 9", Baer Brakes, Shooting for 11s...

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    • #32
      ok, injectors not leaking , i lifted the fuel ramp and its ok , not dripping at all, same issue
      I dont have a tester yet , nor fuel pressure gauge
      93 t/a A4 3.23s
      95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
      99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
      99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
      97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
      93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
      00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8

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      • #33
        Does unplugging the MAF still cause the car to run perfectly?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Joe 1320
          Does unplugging the MAF still cause the car to run perfectly?
          yes, it runs ok with the MAF unplugged , havent tried to start it up with it unplugged but last time i tried it started ok every time, just fans on and check engine light on .

          Starts and dies sometimes , and sometimes runs rough for a few seconds , about 10 20 secs, then all of a sudden its ok, smooth . When i unplug the maf while it is running it revs up to about 1000 rpm at idle then drops to normal idele after a few seconds. Exhaust smells funny, not very rich, but it clears when the engine runs ok, its like a bad rich smell and fumes like caused by misfires i think. no smoke though, not even at wot
          93 t/a A4 3.23s
          95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
          99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
          99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
          97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
          93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
          00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8

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          • #35
            ok, yesterday the hose from the passenger side AIR check valve came off , and hot exhaust gases were blowing from the valve almost melted the wiring loom . air fuse under the hood was blown too , and some foam looking black stuff was stuck in the maf screen ( like pieces from a dried and broken sponge) which i think came from inside the secondary air pump. i noticed that once a long time ago and cleaned it and was ok till now.

            if exhaust is blowing through the valve means the valve is bad i suppose, a good excuse to get rid of the air system. and the cat. haha
            anyway , car seems to start better, i will drive it to work tomorrow and see what happens

            Is the secondary air system in any way linked to the egr system ? was thinking it might have affected the egr causing the bad start ups
            93 t/a A4 3.23s
            95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
            99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
            99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
            97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
            93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
            00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8

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            • #36
              As I recall, this thread is about your 95. If so, there is no connection between the AIR and EGR systems. Only the 93 has the two connected.
              Fred

              381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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              • #37
                ok...changed the plugs, the opti...same issue .
                i am suspecting something is wrong with the egr, the car ran very badly, no power , not running , overheating - plugged cat ...i put a de cat pipe and now it runs almost ok, a slight miss though.

                The plugged cat caused one of the air check valves to break and allow exhaust gases into the air pump and intake .
                What would a sticking egs valve cause?
                93 t/a A4 3.23s
                95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
                99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
                99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
                97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
                93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
                00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8

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                • #38
                  EGR stuck closed won't affect the way the engine runs. Stuck open its going to idle very poorly and likely stall, continue to run rough until you operate the engine in the range that the EGR valve would normally be open.
                  Fred

                  381ci all-forged stroker - 10.8:1 - CNC LT4 heads/intake - CC solid roller - MoTeC engine management - 8 LS1 coils - 58mm TB - 78# injectors - 300-shot dry nitrous - TH400 - Gear Vendor O/D - Strange 12-bolt - 4.11's - AS&M headers - duals - Corbeau seat - AutoMeter gauges - roll bar - Spohn suspension - QA1 shocks - a few other odds 'n ends. 800HP/800lb-ft at the flywheel, on a 300-shot. 11.5 @ 117MPH straight motor

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Injuneer
                    EGR stuck closed won't affect the way the engine runs. Stuck open its going to idle very poorly and likely stall, continue to run rough until you operate the engine in the range that the EGR valve would normally be open.
                    if i disconnect the vacuum line from the egr solenoid to the egr valve it should remain closed ?
                    should the engine start and run ok with the egr valve closed?
                    93 t/a A4 3.23s
                    95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
                    99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
                    99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
                    97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
                    93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
                    00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8

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                    • #40
                      If the accuator selenoid is faulty you'll get a DTC
                      If the EGR valve is half way open or closed, you won't get a DTC. That is due the valve stem is nor run properly because the charcoal. In closed loop the EGR must be closed, if not, you'll have idle and performance problems.

                      Yu want to uninstall it, cleaned and asure the valve stem runs properly. No big deal. Let a mirror guide your steps.

                      Good luck mate

                      dochidalgo

                      Oh, the engine start with a faulty EGR or closed in open loop will give you hard starts.
                      97 A4 Pontiac Firebird Trans am with $everal mod$

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                      • #41
                        Thanks Dochidalgo,
                        I took the EGR valve off and cleaned it, stem moves ok , moves when vacuum is applied , all seems ok, but the problem is still there ..still hard to start, runs really bad and shaking , then after a little while everything is ok , revs up to like 1200 revs and goes down to correct idle speed , everything ok afterwards, car pulls strong ( strong enough to break another transmission mount lol )
                        Any ideas?
                        93 t/a A4 3.23s
                        95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
                        99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
                        99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
                        97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
                        93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
                        00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8

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                        • #42
                          ok, i installed an egr block off plate, still the same problem

                          what happens if the oxygen sensors go bad? if i unplug them , will the car run ?
                          sticking valve?

                          this is very weird...only runs rough , and shaking really bad like the timing is off, like running on like 5 cylinders ....only for about 10 seconds, then ok ?!!!??!!!! funny smell too, from misfires i think

                          cant think of something else....does the same with maf disconnected,
                          93 t/a A4 3.23s
                          95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
                          99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
                          99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
                          97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
                          93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
                          00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8

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                          • #43
                            ok, its a faulty ignition switch
                            93 t/a A4 3.23s
                            95 Formula A4 2.73s >>>>93 t/a 3.23 , !AIR, !cat, !A/C, hotchkis lowering springs, kyb adj shocks, DD
                            99 Camaro z28 a4, 2.73, !AIR, !A/C
                            99 Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 v6, red
                            97 3.8 v6 A4 camaro, hardtop
                            93 Camaro Z28 M6, hotcam kit, 150 shot, twin plate clutch, eibach pro kit and bilstein shocks, swaybars etc
                            00 audi a6 4.2 40 valve v8

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