Tradeing up

[NJSpeed]

I currently have a 93 3.4 liter Firebird and i really love everything about it except that fact that its pretty damn slow (about 17s in the 1/4 mile) and the lack of parts for the 3.4 liter engine im considering buying a 1996 Camaro 3.8 liter with 57k on it. Im wondering if its worth the upgrade i know the Camaro has 40 more horsepower and 25 more ft-lbs of torque but what im really more concerened with is will i be able to find more performance upgrades like new computer chips or programmers etc. I already have a buyer for my car so the new camaro will really only cost me about a grand maybe less. Any input would be great
Thanks

[JeffM]

How much are you getting for your 3.4? You can find 93/94 LT1's for $4-5K. I don't think it's worth it to go from a small V6 to a bigger V6..

Go for the gusto

[NJSpeed]

Id get 3500 for my Firebird.. Id love to just buy a LT1 or LS1 but insurance rates for teenagers in NJ dont make that such a easy choice

[Mirroredshades]

Hold out for a V8 dude. I maximized a 6 and then converted to an 8 later. I spent a ton and gained very little.

If insurance is holding you back, maybe you should look at junkyard turbos. Not easy but really fun.

Also, you can put a major suspension under a 6 and have fun in the twisties. Its legal (well, sort of) and fun.

[wolfdogs]

v8 dude.

otherwise..ur just suckin up tailpipe f@rts..... especially with all the new rice comming out. dont cut yourself short. wait for the goodies.

[mbigd73]

wow

your vin number will say its a V6 no matter what thats what your insurance goes by hold out for a LT1 or LS1 car you will be alot happier good luck

[NJSpeed]

I havent been able to find a nice LS1 or LT1 for around 4500 all the 1s ive seen have high mileage but i guess you guys are right a v8 would be the way to go ill call my insurance company and get a qoute so i have a idea of what it will cost me. Snice im still a youngin my insurance rates wont drop until i hit 21 ewwwwwwwww... Thanks for the input

[99WS6TA]

ls1

check this out. he would probably take 2000 for it.


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here are a few more



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[95z28]

yea insurance sucks, but trust me geting the v8 is well worth it !!!!!!!!!!!!

[99WS6TA]

insurance

dont worry about your insurance company they dont care about anything except what the vin brings up. I had an 88 iroc that had a ZZ430 crate motor in it and the insurance company thought that it had a 305. So dont worry.

[95z28]

Ya u can get a 93-95 for pretty cheap i only paid 5500 for my 1995 z28 and its in almost perfect condition it has 35k interior is mint ist jsut got a few dings in it but thats normal. the wize move would be to hold out til u find one you will be alot happier in the long run

[tabahr]

Re: insurance

Originally posted by 99WS6TA
dont worry about your insurance company they dont care about anything except what the vin brings up. I had an 88 iroc that had a ZZ430 crate motor in it and the insurance company thought that it had a 305. So dont worry.

Your swap was an V8 to V8 swap. You are right in that the insurance company doesn't care about that because you are already paying the higher risk V8 rate.

If you take a V6 car, and put in an 8, then LIE to the insurance company you are committing fraud. If you place a claim and the adjuster notices the V8, and the policy says V6, you are screwed. Your coverage will be void, and you could be financially destroyed.

Don't we buy insurance to prevent that?

[NJSpeed]

Very good point tabahr im not gonna risk being in debt the rest of my life just so i can go a bit faster. Anyway with some skillfull haggleing im gonna get the Camaro for amount ill get for my Firebird so this is working out perfect i get a morepowerful car as well as a much nicer looking 1 my firebird has seen better days and still get to keep the same insurance